pellet gun suggestions

[waterhouse]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but since I'm looking for a pellet rifle I thought this might work.

I have a friend looking for a pellet gun. He already has a couple, but they are fairly loud. I don't know much about them, but the ones he has have a sort of break barrel action. He wants one that meets the following criteria:

1) Accurate and powerful enough to kill a squirrel.
2) quiet enough that close neighbors won't hear.

To a certain extent, money is not really a problem, but we're probably looking to keep it under about $4-500

This is just a starting point for research, so feel free to throw out whatever products you know of that meet the criteria.

 

[MikeJackmin]

Short answer:

http://www.pyramydair.com/p/benjamin-392-pump-air-rifle.shtml

They make a nice peep sight for it, too.

 

[fgr39]

why not suppress a .22

 

[tallpaul]

Short answer:

http://www.pyramydair.com/p/benjamin...ir-rifle.shtml

They make a nice peep sight for it, too.

Mikejack- ya ain't too knowledgeable about asirguns or ya did not read his post... the benji will be louder than most if not all springers....

look here n research n ask questions although the quiet is gonna be cuttin close in that price range ...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/

 

[tallpaul]

why not suppress a .22

likely discharging a firearm is against the local ordinances where as an airgun is not.. that is a usual/common response

 

[lee n. field]

1) Accurate and powerful enough to kill a squirrel.
2) quiet enough that close neighbors won't hear.

Powerfull air rifles are loud. You'll want to find one with a "moderator". Gamo makes one. Don't know how good it is.

 

[waterhouse]

why not suppress a .22

That was my suggestion. This all started because my suppressed .22 was quieter than his air guns. He doesn't want to do the paperwork, and he is in city limits, so we are looking for a quiet pellet gun.

 

[BlindJustice]

I live in a side by side duplex - a brick privacy wall and the fact that
the unit to the west is about 2 ft lower,. It's on a SW corner and
the lot east of me is empty.as well as elevated. With the hedge I can
set up a trat/target and fire my Crossman H9 .177 It takes
8 strokes, warning no more than 8 strokes for a full power 525 fps.
It's quiet enough that no one has complained. I got it because the
neighbor woman put out a bird feeder and darn if the cutest little
covey of quail were being raised. So, I got the Crossman because
the vermin no not squirrels but magpies aren't nice to young birds of
any kind Crossman one confirmed, several stop coming back.
this summer.

 

[Oohrah]

I have one of those commerative NRA Gamcos that is a .177. Use it
to keep pests out of the attic area of my house without worry of over
penetration. So far, one shot kills ( wears a 4X Bushnel scope ) on
two distructive pine squirrels and two Flickers (bird simular to a Woodpecker)
have bit the dust. Use the target pellets that seem to paralize on a solid
hit, and within a couple of seconds fall over dead! Only noise I hear is the
sound of the spring travel. Bulge at the end of the barrel may be a form of
suppressor. Believe the velocity is somewhere around 1200 fps and it is
very accurate.

 

[sarduy]

Have Fun!

well CO2 guns is not as lound as regular pellets gun. Have fun!

Link
http://www.airgunwarehouseinc.com/py-1377-2185.html

The AirForce Condor on CO2 delivers up to 850 fps (in .177). This air rifle offers extreme flexibility along with continued great accuracy (1" at 50 yards...or better!). The power wheel, although intended for use with the gun on high-pressure air, still has a slight amount of adjustability running on CO2. Since the rifle has NO recoil, you can comfortably shoot all day long without the fatigue and pain associated with spring-piston rifles. And, it's considerably lighter than most spring guns!

Built in the USA, the CO2 Condor is for anyone who wants to shoot for hours. From its Lothar Walther barrel (1:16 twist) to its removable tank, the Condor is the standard for state-of-the-art manufacturing of modern airguns. Made of space-age polymers and aircraft-grade aluminum, the rifle is lightweight and equipped with a durable finish.

The removable CO2 tank does double-duty as the butt of the gun, contributing to its light weight and convenience. Get 12" and 18" AirForce barrels to suit your needs. Change-outs are quick and easy and don't require any special tools.

The benefits of shooting a Condor on CO2:
Over 1,000 shots per CO2 tank
Ideal for shooting indoors
Easy to switch to air
No handpump or scuba tank required
Quieter operation

 

[rangerruck]

a pcp airgun is deff quieter than a springer, but they are more money.
the one pictured above looks very good.

 

[rangerruck]

for a springer, the biathlon/baikal/Izmsh rifles look double tough to beat, since they make them as starter types for their olympic shooters.

 

[eliphalet]

Gamo makes what your looking for. Gamo "whisper" several models

http://www.pyramydair.com/p/gamo-whisper-air-rifle.shtml

 

[cuervo]

FWIW: The silenced Gamos are not very silent because most of the noise is coming from the spring, not the muzzle.

CMP has a single-stroke Daisy pneumatic that could work, as well as a PCP. The pre-charged pneumatic is a good choice if you don't mind investing in a scuba tank and having it refilled every now and then.

 

[tallpaul]

a pcp airgun is deff quieter than a springer, but they are more money.
the one pictured above looks very good.

Again someone speaking without real experience. Generally a PCP gun is going to be louder than a spring gun. You may believe it to be different but likely what you here is the mechanical noise of a springer reverbing through your head and it will be loader to your ear but from someone next to or away from the guns a PCP or multi pump is gonna be louder unless strictly target velocity, supressed or moderated ... research it from people with experience.

 

[Fast Frank]

That's been my experience, too.

My pump up Benjamin makes a fairly loud "POP" out the muzzle because of the compressed air.

My 25 cal Beeman Kodiak offers WAY more power, and no muzzle blast. there is a "Clunk" noise from the spring, but most folks won't associate that noise with a gunshot. It sounds more like a car door shutting.

Here's a video of me shooting it. you can hear the sound of the pellet hitting the can, and it's as loud as the gun.

(Note what it does to the can)

Click on the pic to play.

 

[TAB]

BTW check your local hunting laws... for example in CA it must be .20 or larger to hunt with. with that in mind some companys offer break barrels with 177 and 22.

Normal offerings are .177, .20, .22, .25. The 20 and 25 pellets are by far the most expensive to find and hardest to find.

 

[yhtomit]

waterhouse: Your sig makes me think you're wanted in the thread about price-gouging FFL holders $6! Outrageous! Why, there oughtta be a law!

To the topic at hand: I have a couple of Crosman 1377s. I don't hunt, but many people certainly shoot squirrels with them. (I find squirrels kind of cute and have no personal reason to shoot them; on the other hand, one of my favorite pictures of the girlfriend before last was her holding up squirrels that she'd just shot.) The 1377 is a (biggish) handgun rather than a rifle, but it can be made into a carbine at least, with an add-on stock. (And lots of people make their own add-ons for it, too.)

I think it's a blazing deal, too -- I found the two I have for less than $50 each. Pyramid charges just slightly over -- http://www.pyramydair.com/p/crosman-1377-pump-pistol.shtml

It would be nice if (for airguns especially) there was a "typical measured firing noise" figure associated with guns, with some sort of standard measuring distance and weighting of frequencies. However, since I don't know of such a thing, all I can tell you is the 1377 is a lot quieter than a .22, and a lot louder than opening the door of the refrigerator. A healthy noise, between a THONK and SMACK.

Cheers,

timothy

 

[elmerfudd]

Again someone speaking without real experience. Generally a PCP gun is going to be louder than a spring gun. You may believe it to be different but likely what you here is the mechanical noise of a springer reverbing through your head and it will be loader to your ear but from someone next to or away from the guns a PCP or multi pump is gonna be louder unless strictly target velocity, supressed or moderated ... research it from people with experience.

That pretty much sums it up. I've owned both shrouded and unshrouded PCP's and without the shroud they can get awfully noisy. Something really powerful like a Career 707 starts to approach rimfire noise. A good shrouded PCP on the other hand like an Air Arms S4xx, can be extremely quiet if it's got a full charge of air in it.

 

[YodaVader]

To a certain extent, money is not really a problem, but we're probably looking to keep it under about $4-500

Here is a Beeman R9 which falls well below that price range. I have the smaller R7 and it is superbly accurate and has a great trigger. I have handled the R9 at gun shows and it is not overly large like some of the rifles in its power range.

http://www.pomona-airguns.com/Beeman%20R9.htm

I ordered my air rifle from Pomona and the service was excellent.

 

[Cron]

Hw77

Better trigger and more accurate than the RWS. Underlever cocking so no scope alignment problems. Solid as the Rock of Gibraltar. May push the price limit.

 

[flashhole]

I have put thousands of rounds through my 20 cal Benjamin Sheradin pump up pellet gun. It kills ground squirells like Thor's hammer. It took down a very large wading bird that was after my coy. My brother killed a couple of feral cats with it too. It is remarkably powerful for being a pump up gun. I put a peep sight on it to extend the sight radius and it is as accurate an any 22 I have ever shot. Doesn't have the range mind you but it's a hoot to shoot.

 

[The Scout]

I have a somewhat limited personal experience with air rifles, or any type of gun for that matter. The best air rifle I own is the Storm XT, its roughly $100 at the local Wally-World and to my eyes its shoots beautifully. Not sure how loud it is compared to other air rifles but I would not say it is enough for neighbors to complain.