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Just saw a story on Fox News on a soccer mom who was a permit holder and took her Glock to a soccer game where a fellow got upset and reported her to the Sherrif. Law took mom's gun and permit, and she sued. She won, got her permit and gun back, but the Sherrif says he'll do it again.

Concern I had mostly was comments from Fox News viewers who are "hunters" but are upset with the idea a woman would carry a gun to a soccer game.:banghead:
 
There are some really interesting comments any time these things happen. I was listening to Kiro news radio and somebody called in about the Southcenter Mall shooting and said that he supported the 2A, but didn't understand why you would take your gun shopping. I was thinking really? A guy shoots up the mall and you don't see why you might want to bring your gun with you?

I carry my gun everywhere, but I hear all the time "Why do you think you're going to need your gun at the store/gas station/concert/restaurant/game/etc. The answer is that I don't think I'll need it. I don't think I'll need my wallet or my cell phone either. But if I do need it, I'm going to be pretty happy I had it. And besides, if I knew where I was going to need a gun, I'd be packing something a lot bigger or just not going. Since I can't see the future, I just carry it everywhere.
 
She won, got her permit and gun back, but the Sherrif says he'll do it again.
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I hadn't heard that he'd said anything about doing it again. Grandpa Simpson appears to be intent upon eating out of dumpsters in his golden years. He's already made a bunch of VERY damaging statements to the media. If he actually said that, he's got homelessness in his future. Meleanie (her name) is going to own him AND the county in their entirety.
 
I carry my gun everywhere, but I hear all the time "Why do you think you're going to need your gun at the store/gas station/concert/restaurant/game/etc. The answer is that I don't think I'll need it. I don't think I'll need my wallet or my cell phone either. But if I do need it, I'm going to be pretty happy I had it. And besides, if I knew where I was going to need a gun, I'd be packing something a lot bigger or just not going. Since I can't see the future, I just carry it everywhere.
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As I type this, I'm sitting one town away from where a guy walked into a Lane Bryant clothing store and shot six women in the head execution style, killing five. I'm thinking that if they'd KNOWN that was going to happen, they'd have been in Dress Barn instead.

People who are against concealed or open carry often seem incapable of rational thought. They frequently appear to me no more sophisticated than a three year old, led around by the hand, with not the slightest clue about the REAL world.
 
I have two things on this one....


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She won, got her permit and gun back, but the Sherrif says he'll do it again.
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How can a sheriff or any LEO KEEP his or her job when they have publically stated that they WILL break the law again???

2.)
Concern I had mostly was comments from Fox News viewers who are "hunters" but are upset with the idea a woman would carry a gun to a soccer game.
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I hope we don't have another "Fudds" discussion on here. It's been done to death.

But you have to realize something. ALL hunters are not pro-RKBA. It sounds odd to say that, but it is true. Sure, they may use firearms in their hunting or sport, but they somehow view thier turn-bolt or double-barrel as different than our firearms. It is an error on our part to expect them to be uniformly pro-RKBA.

Now before this becomes a dog-piling on hunters, please understand this: MOST hunters ARE pro-RKBA.

And there are plenty like me: I've been hunting with EBR's for most of my 30 years of hunting. And my "Fudd" father was the one that helped me get started. He wouldn't carry my LR-308 if I gave it to him, but he doesn't see anything wrong with my using it.


-- John
 
...took her Glock to a soccer game where a fellow got upset and reported her to the Sherrif.
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How did he know she had a Glock? If you are going to carry a concealed weapon, CONCEAL it so as to not upset the ninnies.

If you insist on pushing your rights to the limit, be sure you can afford the lawyer.
 
Wasn't concealed. Open carry from what I heard.

Also, she carried like this for a year before it was an issue.
 
If you insist on pushing your rights to the limit, be sure you can afford the lawyer.
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why do so many allegedly pro-RKBA people hate open carry so much? you do realize that that was the way it was done for centuries long before contemporary CCW laws? should we be afraid to behave in a completely legal manner just because others don't like it?

defeatist thinking bothers me more than anything else i see on this forum...
 
hmmmm i think i read a quote from sheriff that could be spun that way. if one had a reason to. anyone know her lawyers name? and how long before this affects hubbys job?
 
I saw this too. The guy appearing with her, presumably her lawyer, made this claim.
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I haven't seen or heard him say that he'd do it again, but I can believe he would based on his other DOCUMENTED public statements to the media. His incredibly ill advised statements in a newspaper interview which I read basically amounted to, "Won't SOMEBODY please sue me into poverty???!!!" He admitted that he pulled her LTCF to "send a message". He's toast... toast sitting on top of a drum of aviation gasoline, wrapped with det cord, directly under the blast point at Hiroshima.

He's already hung himself in civil court with his own voluntary statements to the media. Saying that he'd do it again is just the difference between being hung with rope versus piano wire.

It'd be nice if the jackasses who talked him into this would at least let him sleep in their attics after he loses his house...
 
If you are going to carry a concealed weapon, CONCEAL it so as to not upset the ninnies.
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Yes, let's all hide our rights so that nobody is offended.

While we're at it, let's take down the obvious signs of churches (steeples, crosses, stained-glass windows, etc.). Make the buildings nondescript. After all, you can still practice, but that way you'll avoid offending the atheists who don't want it shoved in their faces (to say nothing of other faiths, particularly those with, shall we say, "militant attitudes").

I hope she takes the county to the cleaners, and I hope she wins punitive damages against the sheriff for being such a spineless wimp. Rights are rights, and should never be the subject of "go along to get along."

Fortunately for all of us, Ms. Parks had a different assessment of the situation.
 
Lesson #1, if you are lic and gonna carry concealed then never ,ever, ever let someone see your gun unless you need to show them the business end in your self defense.

Concealed means hidden and it should remain so always.

jj
 
Jim, whats your beef? There is nothing wrong with what she did. Yes, she has a permit and is required for some situations. It was not required for the situation she was in. We're all on the same side here.
 
Jim, whats your beef? There is nothing wrong with what she did. Yes, she has a permit and is required for some situations. It was not required for the situation she was in. We're all on the same side here.
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Heck, we are even from the same state, howdy neighbor...:D I have no beef what's so ever, it is tactically unsound to let people see your gun or ammo. You make yourself the "first target" should a BG see you armed.

Some states allow open carry but others if you let people see your gun you can be arested for brandishing. To my point of view open carry should always be legal to people who aren't convicts if you don't brandish your gun to threaten people.

Who is at fault if you carry open and someone gets your gun from you and kills another?? If they didn't know you were carrying then you wouldn't be apt to lose your gun.

jj
 
I'm not sure, but I thought that in PA you don't even need a permit to OC.
So when the sheriff revoked her CC for OCing he was clearly out of line.
The way I see it Just Jim is that while OCing she is choosing not to CC.
I'm sure several of the people on here who have CCW don't carry everywhere they go.
She is doing the same by not concealing.
 
If she is (and must have been) following the law then she shouldn't have a problem. Open carry is legal but you can see the problems it can lead too. If she was accused of brandishing her gun then I doubt she would have got it back.

Open carry means you better be on your best behavior. If you act with harsh words that can be seen as theatening manner then you got problems if you are carrying open.

Carrying concealed and never showing your gun to anyone including friends and neighbors will save you being taged as a threat.

jj
 
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