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January 08, 2004, 9:29 a.m.
Newsom Wins One
A First and Second victory.

By Dave Kopel

First Amendment rights and Second Amendment values won a big victory, and political correctness suffered a harsh defeat, last month in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. In the case of Newsom v. Albermarle County School Board the Fourth Circuit ruled 3-0 in favor of a public-school student's First Amendment right to wear a shirt from an NRA shooting-sports camp. The unanimous panel rejected the school's preposterous argument that banning the shirt was necessary for school safety.



Alan Newsom was a sixth-grader at Jack Jouett Middle School, in Albermarle County, Virginia. In April 2002, he was having lunch in the cafeteria, wearing a T-shirt bearing the words "NRA Shooting Sports Camp." The T-shirt showed three silhouettes of men aiming their firearms — one each for rifle, shotgun, and pistol, the three broad categories of the shooting sports.

An assistant principal noticed the shirt, and felt reminded of Columbine, since both the T-shirt and Columbine involved "sharpshooters." The teacher was quite wrong; the Columbine murderers were not precision-target shooters. To the contrary, they were very poor shots who killed almost all of their victims at a very close distance. As demonstrated by a recently released video of the killers and their friends shooting guns a few weeks before the murders, the killers and their scurvy associates had nothing in common with sharpshooters at a sports camp. One of the future killers came close to killing himself though incompetent and unsafe gun handling, and the killers had no skills or training in any shooting discipline.

For the assistant principal to equate a safe, controlled, sport shooter at an NRA camp with the Columbine murderers was bigoted and irrational. It was like seeing a Beethoven T-shirt, and claiming to be reminded of the Holocaust, because both involved Germans.

The assistant principal ordered Newsom to remove the T-shirt, or turn it inside out. She told him that the T-shirt was inappropriate because it had "pictures of men shooting guns." She threatened Newsom with suspension if he refused to comply.

Newsom's parents contacted the NRA, and NRA staff attorney Daniel Zavadil took their case at no charge.

The school soon discovered that Newsom's shirt was entirely legal under the school's existing dress code, which banned messages on clothing which related to drugs, alcohol, tobacco, sex, or vulgarity, or which "reflected adversely" on a person's race or ethnicity. So the school added a dress-code amendment which banned "messages on clothing, jewelry, and personal belongings that relate to...weapons." The NRA filed suit on Newsom's behalf in September 2002, after the school refused to stop its unconstitutional suppression of student speech.

In December 2002, the federal district court for the western district of Virginia denied Newsom's motion for a preliminary injunction (an order for the school to respect his free speech rights, pending final resolution of the case). Newsom appealed to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, which reversed the lower court, and on December 1, 2003, ruled 3-0 that Newsom was entitled to a preliminary injunction.

Legally speaking, this was not a complicated case. In the 1969 decision Tinker v. Des Moines Independent School District, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the right of students to wear black armbands as part of a Vietnam War protest. In Newsom v. Albermarle, the school district spent a great deal of effort arguing that this frequently cited Supreme Court case from 34 years ago was no longer relevant.

Tinker allowed schools to ban genuinely disruptive speech. A subsequent case, Bethel School District No. 403 v. Fraser (1986), said that schools could also punish student speech which, although not disruptive, violated standards of civility. The Court upheld a school's authority to discipline a student for delivering a student-government election speech filled with lewd sexual metaphors. Lower courts have elaborated Bethel to allow schools to ban "lewd, vulgar, and plainly offensive speech," but not to ban speech because of its political content. The 1988 Supreme Court case Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeieri allowed censorship of school newspaper articles, on the grounds that the newspaper is part of the school curriculum.

As the Fourth Circuit explained, Tinker was the controlling precedent. Newsom's T-shirt was not vulgar or lewd (Bethel), nor was it sponsored by the school, or part of a school program (Hazelwood).

The school district essentially tried to turn the clock back to before the civil-rights era. It argued that the T-shirt was conduct, not speech, and therefore not entitled to any First Amendment protection. But several cases, including Tinker, have recognized that messages can be communicated through clothing; Tinker, after all, involved black arm bands with no words.

The school district alleged that the NRA shooting-sports camp T-shirt was disruptive, although there was no evidence to support the claim. Apparently the only person at the school who felt disturbed by seeing the T-shirt in April 2002 was the prejudiced assistant principal.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia Foundation filed an amicus brief on behalf of Newsom, as did the Individual Rights Foundation. So did Virginia Attorney General Jerry Kilgore, whose brief, ably written by staff attorney William Hurd, pointed out that the school's policy would outlaw the symbols of many Virginia institutions. The Virginia state seal, and the state flag, depict a woman with a spear standing on the chest of a dead tyrant. The University of Virginia Cavaliers sports teams use the symbol of two crossed sabers. (The Cavaliers were the group which supported the monarchy during the English Civil War.) And right across the street from Jack Jouett Middle School is Albermarle County High School — whose symbol is a Patriot with a musket.

I wrote an amicus brief for the Independence Institute, arguing that the school's policy was irrational, because shooting sports promote good character. The school's policy would punish students for wearing clothing supporting the Olympic or Paralympic shooting teams, or for wearing patches earned from the President's Council on Physical Fitness, or from other wholesome, character-building organizations.

The school's response to the absurdly excessive breadth of its speech ban was to assert that the dress code had a limited construction: It only applied to clothing that was disruptive. The Fourth Circuit rejected this assertion, since it was plainly inconsistent with what the dress code actually said. Likewise rejected was the school's claim that it applied the dress code in a commonsensical way, since the only enforcement of the "weapons" provision had been against Newsom's T-shirt, which "depicted images of gunmen aiming high-powered firearms."

Actually, at the district-court level, the school's attorney had told the court that the only problem with the T-shirt was the picture, not the words. The NRA immediately offered to settle the case, if the school would certify that students could wear words-only NRA clothing that did not depict gun use. The school district refused. Clearly the school's aim was to prevent a student from even wearing a lapel pin with the words "National Rifle Association."

The Fourth Circuit ordered the district court to grant Newsom a preliminary injunction. As a result, the school is completely forbidden from enforcing the "weapons" part of its speech/dress code. The district court was ordered to apply the Tinker standard when a full trial takes place on the merits.

In the meantime, the school district has announced that it will petition for an en banc rehearing before all 14 judges of the Fourth Circuit. The Fourth Circuit rejected the school board's motion to suspend the appellate panel's order, while the full circuit considers whether to grant a rehearing.

According to the Jack Jouett Middle School website:

During the night of June 3-4, 1781, Captain Jack Jouett rode from Cuckoo Tavern in Louisa County to Charlottesville in time to warn Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, and other members of the Virginia General Assembly that British soldiers, under the command of Colonel Tarleton, were on their way to capture them. Captain Jouett became known as the "Paul Revere of the South"' because his ride was one of the most significant factors of the war; however, little is known of Jack Jouett outside Virginia.
The website does not note the fact that the grateful Virginia legislature awarded Jouett a sword and a matched pair of pistols.

The obstinate and unconstitutional conduct of the school administration and the school board in the Newsom case revealed contempt for the First and Second Amendments. The adults' behavior was a disgrace to the memory of Jack Jouett. Young Alan Newsom, however, acted in the spirit of Jack Jouett and other great Virginians: He went to NRA camp to learn the responsible exercise of Second Amendment rights, and then he went to federal court to vindicate the First Amendment.

Alan Newsom might be unpopular with some school bureaucrats right now, but they should reread the last sentence of the Jack Jouett school's mission statement:

Our ultimate charge is to deepen our students' academic, social, and civic understanding and skills so that they can be successful in high school and as independent, responsible, and contributing members of society.
Alan Newsom's deep civic understanding has already made him a responsible and contributing member of society, winning a major case which will help protect the rights of students for many generations to come.

— David Kopel is the research director at the Independence Institute.
 
"My opinion of the NRA is edging slightly back into the positive range."

So what?

Tim
 
I have recently started wearing gun-related shirts and hats on Fridays around work just to see what type of responses I get. Nothing negative so far from any of the computer-types around here. In fact, I am seeing more and more of my co-workers interested in shooting. :D

I think the ones that would be offended are of the sheeple-type personality and wouldn't have the intestinal fortitude to say anything directly to me. They might say something to someone else but I haven't heard anything yet. I keep waiting for a memo from HR at some point to everyone restating the dress code.

GT
 
"My opinion of the NRA is edging slightly back into the positive range."

So what?

Tim


I wrote that to acknowledge the NRA does some positive things from time to time.

Sorry if you found the remark offensive.

I'll refrain from acknowledging it when the NRA does anything positive in the future that offsets the flustercluck that is their efforts at the local level in Virginia:

NRA Stabs Virginia Gun Owner's in the Back.

Additionally I will immediately cancel my THR registration, sell all of my guns, and move to New Jersey.:barf:
 
TarpleyG wrote:

I have recently started wearing gun-related shirts and hats on Fridays around work just to see what type of responses I get. Nothing negative so far from any of the computer-types around here. In fact, I am seeing more and more of my co-workers interested in shooting.

I think the ones that would be offended are of the sheeple-type personality and wouldn't have the intestinal fortitude to say anything directly to me. They might say something to someone else but I haven't heard anything yet. I keep waiting for a memo from HR at some point to everyone restating the dress code.

Redarding the possibility of "a memo from HR", that's just about their speed, memo's "restating the dress code", which is perhaps why HR types are sometimes knows as "chankers on the penis of progress".
 
"Additionally I will immediately cancel my THR registration, sell all of my guns, and move to New Jersey."

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

Tim
 
Tim, why are you so negitive about Cool Hand Luke's comments? Just curious.
 
Larry, I am infuriated by Luke's use of this thread as an opportunity to take a cheap shot at the NRA. Here are some of his words in the "backstabbing" thread he cites:

"I am so damn sorry that I ever joined the NRA."

I am certain that Luke is as staunch a supporter of the RKBA as anyone here, including me. On the other hand, does he honestly believe that he is helping our cause by encouraging people to abandon the NRA? The NRA cannot be everywhere and cannot win every battle. That said, Dianne Feinstein absolutely detests the NRA, so I am pleased and proud to be a life member.

Tim
 
TIMRB:

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

LMAO. Control this forum now do you? With all 85 posts?

Leave? no, but go right on with your rant.

Larry, I am infuriated by Luke's use of this thread as an opportunity to take a cheap shot at the NRA. Here are some of his words in the "backstabbing" thread he cites:

Cheap shot? No, what I did was recap and then cut and paste the text of an e-mail sent out to all 2,500 VCDL members detailling how the NRA had undercut all of our efforts to stop VA Senate Bill 660. 2,500 VCDL members writing and calling for months, and then the NRA basically trashed all of those efforts. There's nothing about my post here or on that other thread that constitutes a cheap shot, just an account of what happened. Which you'd have known if you had read beyond the title of that thread.

And I only linked to that other thread by way of explaining my first post in this one in response to your question of "so what?"

Staunch supporter of the NRA? Not hardly.
 
I thought the NRA defended people concerning 2nd Amendment issues. Now they are defending people concerning 1st Amendment issues as well. I wonder how much it cost the NRA to take on this 1st Amendment case?
 
"Staunch supporter of the NRA? Not hardly."

No kidding.

Maybe someday if you ever calm down you can go back and see what I actually wrote. Anyway, this is America. You don't have to like the NRA; even here you'll find people who agree with you. Quit. It's fine with me. So long, and good luck.

But you'll find that your lone voice, or maybe your voice combined with that of a relatively tiny pro-gun group will be easily ignored in the political arena. The *only* way to survive is in numbers. If you actively campaign to get people to leave or refuse to join the NRA, you can expect me, at least, to say something about it.

Tim
 
Since this has been hijacked into an pro/anti NRA spitting match, here are my two cents.

If you don't like the way the NRA does things, JOIN. Pay 5 years dues and you're a voting member. Then you can work to change the NRA from the inside. I'm POed at them too, but I think I've found a constructive way to do something about it.

Like I said, my 2 cents, YMMV. Peace out.
 
Well... just to get back on topic:D ... I have been watching this case for some time, and had discussed the implications of it with my 13 Y/o son who for the first time is attending a large public shool. He has several shirts that have gun related images and such on them. Recently he started wearing a S&W t-shirt that celebrates the anniversary of one of their pistols ( russian 44, I think) to school. So far no one has said anything negitive to him about this, but this distirct has a large amount of hunters in it. The shirt has a large pic of two of this handgun accross the front, no way to misunderstand whats on this shirt. I'm sort of waiting for someone to start trouble... if they do you (THR members) will hear about it :D
 
TIMRB:

The Virginia Citizens Defense League has somewhere around 3000 members. It's not as large as the NRA in Virginia, but it has been much more effective than the NRA. Talk to the State Delegate's & Senator's staffers if you don't believe me. The VCDL generates more calls, letters, and e-mails than the NRA does. The VCDL got shall-issue CCW for VA, not the NRA.

The NRA acts without any apparent attempt that I am aware of to coordinate with the VCDL and other State level groups. In two instances in the past several years the NRA has undercut the efforts of the VCDL in a big way. Most recently with VA S.660. For no good reason at all. There was no reason to agree to state-wide prohibition on concealed carry in the non-sterile areas of VA airports. The VCDL had the State Atty General and Governor looking into the MWAA's unlawfull prohibition at Reagan and Dulles and it would have been oveturned. There was no reason for the NRA to butt in and give the VA Senate cover to pass VA S.660.

Now that the VA House and Senate have passed their versions thanks to the NRA, how many decades of fighting do you suppose are now ahead of Virginians to win back concealed carry in non-sterile areas of VA airports?

As far as encouraging anyone to quit the NRA. I haven't done that.

If you're satisfied with the NRA to the extent that you choose to be a life member, more power to you. Personally, I think there needs to be a major shakeup in the NRA in the area of State-level PAC efforts at the very least.

I will acknowledge that the NRA is doing a good job in other areas like the Natl. Firearms museum, Eddie Eagle, etc, and if you'll look back to my first post in this thread you'll see I was acknowledging that the NRA does some positive things.
 
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