Period optics on classic rifles

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A memory journey back to 194O's, with this Winchester M-43 .218 Bee and Weaver G6 scope in Weaver sidemount. '48's prices for the rifle was $54.95 and the scope, with mount, set you back $12.50. 21A_5192 (2).JPG 21A_3226 (2).JPG 21A_3231 (2).JPG 21A_5194 (2).JPG
 
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I've got an old Savage 23D in 22 Hornet. Mounted is a period correct Weaver model 344 which works splendidly, within its limitations.
I have a Savage 23D, and have a steel, Weaver 4x, I am going to mount on it at some point. I bought a Thompson Center TCR, several years ago, I looked around and found a Leopold VX 3x9 to mount on it and do fine with it. For me it’s also period correct sights. I have a Savage 99 RS, 250/3000 that come with a Williams receiver sight on it. I had to do some looking, to find the right Red Field receiver sight for. It just doesn’t feel right, putting the latest and greatest scope, or sight on a vintage rifle. It’s neat to have vintage firearms, with correct scopes, sights, and hardware, from the time period, they were made. I recently put a Skinner sight on a Marlin 39A, made in 1950. It definitely not a 1950’s sight, but it could have been. It’s not the latest and greatest technology. I really don’t see the Skinner sight, as going against the rule. It sure makes it easier for old eyes to shoot well.
 
I have a B&L Balvar 8 2 1/2 - 8X scope ftom the late 1950s that I haven't used in decades. It's an external-adjustable scope, so it needs a base with adjustments.
Might be nice on a classic rifle.
I have no use for this scope and the adjustable mount is long gone.
Other than a small dent in the rear which doesn't affect the scope, it's in very good condition. Google Balvar 8 for photos.
If anyone's interested, make me an offer. Photos available if requested.
 
I have a Savage 99 RS, 250/3000 that come with a Williams receiver sight on it. I had to do some looking, to find the right Red Field receiver sight for. It just doesn’t feel right, putting the latest and greatest scope, or sight on a vintage rifle. It’s neat to have vintage firearms, with correct scopes, sights, and hardware, from the time period, they were made.

That Williams sight you replaced with a more "vintage" Redfield was not exactly a "latest and greatest" product. The Williams Gun Sight Company has been around for five years or so shy of a century.
 
Don't have a pic, but have a story had a 03A3 with a cracked stock nothing special. Got a new C stock and was researching the Gibbs remake scope and mount. I came across a thread on Sniperhyde where a guy had a picture and backstory about his FIL's 03A4 it was wearing a Weaver K4-60B, he was in Vietnam in the late 60s and it was common practice to toss the 2.5x Lymans and install whatever commercial scope they could get their hands on.
Well just so happened that I had a K4-60B so I have a period correct early Vietnam War era 03A4 sniper rifle.
 
Pre-64 M70. First year of production post war with a mix of pre and post war parts. Lyman Alaskan in Stith mounts. While interesting, the Stith mounts came off as they weighed more than a pound. The Alaskan was too dim for end of the day deep woods hunting in the PNW jungles. I did replace the scope with a limited edition run on 3/4 inch ( or is it 7/8’s?) tube diameter scopes during the 80’s from Leupold. Scope was new issue when I did it. Yeah it’s been awhile.

The smaller tube looks more period correct given how it looked when I got it. Still have the Alaskan and the Stith mounts kicking about.
 
Pre-64 M70. First year of production post war with a mix of pre and post war parts. Lyman Alaskan in Stith mounts. While interesting, the Stith mounts came off as they weighed more than a pound. The Alaskan was too dim for end of the day deep woods hunting in the PNW jungles. I did replace the scope with a limited edition run on 3/4 inch ( or is it 7/8’s?) tube diameter scopes during the 80’s from Leupold. Scope was new issue when I did it. Yeah it’s been awhile.

The smaller tube looks more period correct given how it looked when I got it. Still have the Alaskan and the Stith mounts kicking about.
Those stith mounts are cool, would like to find a set up and try it out.
 
Every scope is only as good as its mount. I love old Anschutz 54 sporters and Anschutz made three different bridge mounts for them, one for the Zeiss rail, one with 26mm rings and one with 22mm rings. They are fitting perfect on the 11 mm rail.

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The mount did cost as much as an entry level Anschutz 1361

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EAW mounts and the bottom is a Kriegeskorte Bridge Mount
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In contrast to the old Hensoldt 6x42 with its aluminium body is the miniature plastic Hensoldt scope for the standard issue HK 36.
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It just doesn’t feel right, putting the latest and greatest scope, or sight on a vintage rifle. It’s neat to have vintage firearms, with correct scopes, sights, and hardware, from the time period, they were made.
I agree. My OTHER Savage 23D has a slightly more modern (but cheap) Tasco scope mounted. It is worlds easier to use than the Weaver scope... but it just doesn't look quite right. I got the thing at a gun show for $200 because the scope wouldn't hold a zero. The seller was very honest about this. I took it home, applied a little locktite here and there...and the scope might as well be welded in place now. It has been a deadly accurate rifle ever since.
 

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I swapped a couple of scopes around today -- I thought I'd try the Sears scope on the Wards rifle.

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I tried to roughly date the JC Higgins/Sears scope, and about the best I can say so far is early-to-mid 1950s. Sears swapped the Higgins brand for Ted Williams in 1964, so definitely well before then. I found this page from an undated Sears catalog page online, which I'm guessing is early '50s and refers to the scope as 'new'.

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Any help locking down the date of this Sears/Weaver scope more closely would be much appreciated!
 
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You'll have to click the link. This is my Savage 99 Circa 1951 with the rebuilt Weaver K2.5 and German 3P4 reticle. Unfortunately I don't have a picture through the optic. I passed on the reblue option as the finish was quite good on this tube. Also vintage Weaver pivot mount. I need to knock out that tall Marbles rear sight and move the scope forward, it is presently mounted too far back.
 
It's 1964, and Winchester has shocked the shooting world with their radically redesigned M-70 rifle, characterized, among unwanted modifications, with instantly despised "pressed checkering" and a new, but soon to be forgotten, cartridge called the .225 Win. Which was initially offered in this heavy barreled varmint version replete with scope bases for target/varmint style scopes like this superb Bausch & Lomb Balvar 24. DSC_0132 (2).JPG DSC_0139 (2).JPG DSC_0136 (2).JPG DSC_0138 (2).JPG DSC_0173 (2).JPG
 
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Around 10 years ago weaver came out with the classic k4

IMO: One can't own enough K4 Weaver Classic scopes. That made in Japan scope has glass that rivals that of very expensive scopes.

Couple years ago Weaver divested itself of the fixed power Classic scopes. i bought four for about $125-$150 each from, i think, Midsouth. One was steel the others aluminum. The steel bodied scope is on my pre-1964 Winchester model 88.
 
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IMO: One can't own enough K4 Weaver Classic scopes. That made in Japan scope has glass that rivals that of very expensive scopes.

Couple years ago Weaver divested itself of the fixed power Classic scopes. i bought four for about $125-$150 each from, i think, Midsouth. One was steel the others aluminum. The steel bodied scope is on my pre-1964 Winchester model 88.
They made a steel tube version with better glass from what I've read and they were twice the aluminum scopes price. Wish I had the money back then, the high gloss looked nice.
 
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Couple years ago Weaver divested itself of the fixed power Classic scopes. i bought four for about $125-$150 each from, i think, Midsouth. One was steel the others aluminum. The steel bodied scope is on my pre-1964 Winchester model 88.

This actually worked in my favor when the elevation turret on a Japanese K2.5 locked up -- I sent it in for repair and they replaced it with a brand new V1-4X. That scope's on my not-so-classic Kimber Hunter now.

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