Permit to Carry holder shoots, kills suspect who shot trooper in AZ, saving troopers life

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Yeah, I don't know where some of y'all get that this wasn't a story covered by major news organizations. I saw it on CNN. If you google the story, it has been covered by all the major news organizations and picked up in numerous local markets as well.

I have to agree with the comment above. I haven't seen anything on this shooting being by a CCW Permit Holder. It was just a motorist with a gun in his car. The gun wasn't even being carried on his person. He had to go back and get his gun from his vehicle after the officer requested/accepted query for help.

Citizens with guns coming to the aid of cops is a rare event. First, cops usually do NOT want any assistance until their situation is completely untenable, as was the case here. Otherwise, they tend to see citizens with guns showing up as liabilities to their safety. They don't know the motivation of the citizen. They don't know if the citizen is really there to help. They don't know the skill of the citizen. They fear the citizen will get in the way and be more of a hindrance than a help.



Well, some people really are that bad of a shot and part of the reasons officers typically do not solicit help from armed citizens unless the situation is absolutely dire. However, the notion that it is "highly possible" that the officer would have been hit in the situation you described and that was apparently what was going on is not accurate. In fact, it is more of an ideal situation as the officer is most apt to be out of the way and the suspect is going to be higher than the officer, presenting a more distinct and stable target. They won't be spinning or turning, or moving laterally any distance, or folded around one another as in situations where they are on their feet and struggling.

I think that you are missing my point. I just used that as an example. I have no idea if that is how the situation unfolded or not because I haven't read anything on this really or seen any video. Yes, if I were a cop in need of assistance then I would want the situation to be just as described because you are right in saying that is probably the best scenario here. However, I was just giving that as an example and even tho that was probably the best position for the cop to be in to avoid getting hit, some people truly are that bad of a shot. Add in a real world situation where they are grappling and moving around the chance of you hitting the wrong person go up exponentially, even if you are trained.
 
The good samaratin isn't named and doesn't say if he has a permit to carry.
Not that it matters much. We have had permitless car carry for decades and were one of the first constitutional carry states (or > 7 years now).
 
I think that you are missing my point. I just used that as an example. I have no idea if that is how the situation unfolded or not because I haven't read anything on this really or seen any video. Yes, if I were a cop in need of assistance then I would want the situation to be just as described because you are right in saying that is probably the best scenario here. However, I was just giving that as an example and even tho that was probably the best position for the cop to be in to avoid getting hit, some people truly are that bad of a shot. Add in a real world situation where they are grappling and moving around the chance of you hitting the wrong person go up exponentially, even if you are trained.

Nope, didn't miss your point. You spoke from an admitted position of ignorance on the matter and gave conclusion that it was "highly probable" that the officer could have been hit.
 
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