Persian 8mm Mausers

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I am not familiar with Mausers but understand the Persians are hard to find and are of the best quality. Could somone give me an idea of what they are worth in varying conditions?

I saw a couple today and was wondering if I should go back and pick up both of them at around $250 out the door. The finish looked OK, no rust, wood was a bit worn but overall, not bad. Regards, Splat
 
I don't know that they are the best quality -- I've usually heard that about the Swedish Mausers -- but they are among the most beautiful, IMO. I paid about that amount for mine, and it's in 'Good' condition. I've seen VG - E condition examples go for more, on up to about 5 bills for Factory Reconditioned ones. Depending on the condition, 250 sounds fair.

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I'm heavy into C&R's and spend most of my time over at the Curio and Relic forum on guns net. I know a bit about them, but do not know exactly what the numbers are that I reference sometimes (like exactly how many were made).

The Persians were made by the BRNO factory in Czechoslovakia. The mausers from the BRNO factory are regarded as some of the best. The craftsmanship is very, very high. Compare one of those BRNO rifles to one of your modern Howa, Winchester, etc and you will see they compare very favorably, or better. The Swedish Mausers are very excellent rifles of awesome craftsmanship, and many regard them as the best overall Mauser. But these reputations will vary from person to person. The Persian mauser is often regarded by many as the best "8mm Mauser" rifle. Personally, I regard the Swedes slightly higher than the Persians. Anyway, the Persian mausers were ordered by the Shah, as he was most impressed by the rifle (I'm not exactly sure of the year). The rifles were never used in an all-out war, many were only used for carry and show by the Persian soldiers, so the net effect is that most of these rifles are in simply outstanding condition for a surplus rifle. The BRNO factory made about 90,000 of these, if I remember correctly.

Samco in Miami has these rifles, and one that is in excellent or near-excellent condition can be had for about $200. Unissued ones run about $500, and lower grade ones cost less than $200. They are not exactly "rare" or hard to find yet, because the wholesaler is still selling them strong. I have one and I like it very much. It has about 97% blue, a mint, MINT bore, and an action that feels as though it has never been used. It had 2 or 3 scratches on the wood, but the original laquer finish is still intact. In all, the rifle was about 98% and was a steal for $212 shipped. I have a Curio and Relic license, so I had it shipped to my door, eschewing the rediculous transfer and fee at my local FFL.

Many have described the Persian as having a "buttery smooth" action, but mine doesn't. It is possible that after I fire a few thousand rounds it will smooth out. But it feels like it has never been shot before. The action is very strong and tight. I should mention that the bayonetes for these rifles are incredible. They are about 3 or 4 feet long, shiny as anything. They are like small swords. Samco sells those for about $70 each. I don't have one yet.

If you are a non-FFL holder, then $250 out the door for a truly excellent condition Persian sounds right. They are very nice rifles, and they are plentiful now, but since about 90,000 were made, they won't be around forever and will go the way of the Swedish Mauser, Hakim, FN-49, into obscurity and rarity.
 
I paid about $270 for mine from a gun shop. You can get them for about $200 from samco, but since I don't have a curio license I figure $25 for the use of the shops license, and another $25 for shipping, means I only overpaid by about $20 but then again I got to look at it before I bought it.

The rifle I have is very very nice. I wouldn't say its as good as a swedish 96, which I have a few of, but its very close. These Persian rifles have seen very little if any use and were made to standards that would shame a modern rifle. Mine will shoot shoot 2 moa with surplus ammo without a problem, and will shoot 1.5 moa with reloads though this is about the best I can shoot with open iron sights.

There is a little wear on the stock on mine- no gouges or big scratches, just the shiny finish that looks like a varnish has been worn down from handling.

Overall I'm very happy with my purchase. Even more so considering that I was going to the store (a Dunham's) with a big wad of cash to buy one of their Century Garands they had on sale. Now that I'm a little bit wiser about Garands, I'm very glad I saw the Persian and bought it instead.:D
 
Did I SAY it was the same country? :confused:

I was only performing a public service for folks who might not know where the heck Persia is/was...

BTW, these weapons are HIGH quality.

I meant no slurs about Iran... strictly geography bucko.

Mike
 
I just bought one of the Persian Mausers and it was unfired but had a few nicks and dings. The metal work was perfect with perfect bluing. I paid the price of $500. but wish I had bought the one with the test target. I hear that they are more near new and come in a wooden box with matching numbered bayonet. I bought my bayonet seperately.

The wood is a very good grade of walnut. This is one reason I prefer it to the Swedish Mausers that have only a plain grade of hardwood not walnut.

The blueing on the Persian Mauser also is light years more beautiful than the dull blueing found on my Swedish Mauser.

Both guns are extremely accurate. The Persian shot 1 inch groups right out of the box with some cast bullet loads going into 1/2 inch at 100 yards for a 5 shot group. It doesn't get much better than this folks.

The Swedish Mauser is also outstanding accurate and shoots cast bullets like a dream come true. I have also gotten some 1/2 inch groups with cast bullets out of the Swede even though the bore is not perfect like my Persian Mauser.

I rate both guns very highly but I prefer the Persian because it is a 98 Mauser not a 96 and because of its outstanding blueing and walnut wood.

Both guns are light years better in workmanship than the current Yugo's being sold.
 
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