4570Rick
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You're right!!! Worms are people too.
You're right!!! Worms are people too.
PETA likens chickens to Holocaust victims
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PETA explains...............................................
Contrary to your report, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals does not compare chickens slaughtered at factory farms to the Jews annihilated in Nazi death camps ("PETA likens chickens to Holocaust victims," Feb. 25). Rather, we use graphic photographs to show the similarities between the oppression and mass murder of Jews during the Holocaust and the slaughter of the animals we raise for food.
The victims are different species, but the system of confinement, abuse, prejudice and slaughter are the same. Every year in the U.S. alone, tens of billion of animals are imprisoned in concentration camps we call factory farms. Ten billion of these will be rounded up, trucked hundreds of miles, herded through the doors to the kill floor and slaughtered. All this is happening while average people go about their lives, turning a blind eye to the suffering. Comparisons to the Holocaust are inescapable, not just because we humans share with animals the capacity for suffering, but because the government-sanctioned oppression of billions of living beings is ignored by people who could act to end it.
The exhibit was funded by a Jewish philanthropist who has spent the past 25 years affiliated with one of the world's foremost Holocaust organizations, and who recognized the moral and ethical imperative of making the public aware of the parallels between the Jewish genocide of World War II and the horrific and inhumane treatment of animals raised and slaughtered for food.
I embraced the project immediately because my mother's family was Polish-Jewish, and while my grandfather immigrated to the United States before the Nazis came to power, the rest of our family were imprisoned in concentration camps. I learned early to speak out against all oppression. Tragically, those who dismiss the abuse of animals on factory farms today sound hauntingly similar to those who dismissed the suffering of Jews because they were "subhuman."
Matt Prescott
Campaign Coordinator
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
Contrary to your report, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals does not compare chickens slaughtered at factory farms to the Jews annihilated in Nazi death camps ("PETA likens chickens to Holocaust victims," Feb. 25). Rather, we use graphic photographs to show the similarities between the oppression and mass murder of Jews during the Holocaust and the slaughter of the animals we raise for food.
The victims are different species, but the system of confinement, abuse, prejudice and slaughter are the same. Every year in the U.S. alone, tens of billion of animals are imprisoned in concentration camps we call factory farms. Ten billion of these will be rounded up, trucked hundreds of miles, herded through the doors to the kill floor and slaughtered. All this is happening while average people go about their lives, turning a blind eye to the suffering. Comparisons to the Holocaust are inescapable, not just because we humans share with animals the capacity for suffering, but because the government-sanctioned oppression of billions of living beings is ignored by people who could act to end it.
The exhibit was funded by a Jewish philanthropist who has spent the past 25 years affiliated with one of the world's foremost Holocaust organizations, and who recognized the moral and ethical imperative of making the public aware of the parallels between the Jewish genocide of World War II and the horrific and inhumane treatment of animals raised and slaughtered for food.
I embraced the project immediately because my mother's family was Polish-Jewish, and while my grandfather immigrated to the United States before the Nazis came to power, the rest of our family were imprisoned in concentration camps. I learned early to speak out against all oppression. Tragically, those who dismiss the abuse of animals on factory farms today sound hauntingly similar to those who dismissed the suffering of Jews because they were "subhuman."
Matt Prescott
Campaign Coordinator
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
cuchulainn
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My, my, my, that gets my vote for sophestry of the month. "Gosh, we'd never compare them, but while you're listening, here are three more paragraphs comparing them."
Keep, digging, Matt, keep digging; you just don't get it.
gburner
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I didn't have the good fortune of being born at the top of the food chain just to squander it by exclusively eating salad. Besides, shooting corn stalks isn't nearly as fun as hunting game.
These people make my head hurt.
BTW....Do they think that dolphins have ethical issues with using their skills to herd vast schools of fish only to
slaughter them in a frenzy of feeding?
Or grizzly bears culling out the strongest salmon at the falls only to almost exclusively eat their brains and roe?
Or orca that hunt the waters off of seal rookeries to feast on birthing mothers and their pups?
Do they think that for one minute that
a mako shark would hesitate to make one of them a PETA pita if they had the poor
fortune to fall overboard in the ocean?
These people make my head hurt.
BTW....Do they think that dolphins have ethical issues with using their skills to herd vast schools of fish only to
slaughter them in a frenzy of feeding?
Or grizzly bears culling out the strongest salmon at the falls only to almost exclusively eat their brains and roe?
Or orca that hunt the waters off of seal rookeries to feast on birthing mothers and their pups?
Do they think that for one minute that
a mako shark would hesitate to make one of them a PETA pita if they had the poor
fortune to fall overboard in the ocean?
Tamara
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"A rat is a dog is a boy is a man..."
Notice the PETA types never run this one out to its' logical extension? An amoeba is a liver fluke is a mollusc is an anopheles mosquito is a lamprey is a sewer rat is a rabid dog is a serial killer.
Notice the PETA types never run this one out to its' logical extension? An amoeba is a liver fluke is a mollusc is an anopheles mosquito is a lamprey is a sewer rat is a rabid dog is a serial killer.
Ledbetter
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Too stupid to just
say he made a mistake and then shut the hell up. Here's a clue, Matt: Chickens ARE subhuman. Your Great Grandma twisted the heads off of them so that YOU could be conceived. (Now that IS a waste of a good chicken.)
"The victims are different species, but the system of confinement, abuse, prejudice and slaughter are the same."
What a maroon. Yes, I'm prejudiced against chickens. Especially undercooked ones.
say he made a mistake and then shut the hell up. Here's a clue, Matt: Chickens ARE subhuman. Your Great Grandma twisted the heads off of them so that YOU could be conceived. (Now that IS a waste of a good chicken.)
"The victims are different species, but the system of confinement, abuse, prejudice and slaughter are the same."
What a maroon. Yes, I'm prejudiced against chickens. Especially undercooked ones.
Group blasts PETA 'Holocaust' project
Friday, February 28, 2003 Posted: 12:51 PM EST (1751 GMT)
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PETA's comparison of the Nazi Holocaust to the slaughter of animals for food is:
An effective argument for animal rights
An unfair and outrageous comparison
VIEW RESULTS
(CNN) -- The Anti-Defamation League has denounced a campaign by an animal rights group that compares slaughtering animals to the murder of 6 million Jews in World War II.
The graphic campaign and exhibit "Holocaust on Your Plate," devised by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, juxtaposes 60-square-foot panels displaying gruesome scenes from Nazi death camps side by side with disturbing photographs from factory farms and slaughterhouses. One shows a starving man in a concentration camp next to a starving cow.
The exhibit opens Friday in San Diego, California, and went up Thursday at the University of California at Los Angeles. It also is posted on a PETA Web site, www.masskilling.com, which calls for support for the campaign from the Jewish community.
The comparisons prompted an angry statement from Abraham Foxman, Anti-Defamation League national director and a Holocaust survivor.
"The effort by PETA to compare the deliberate, systematic murder of millions of Jews to the issue of animal rights is abhorrent," the statement said. "PETA's effort to seek approval for their 'Holocaust on Your Plate' campaign is outrageous, offensive and takes chutzpah to new heights."
Lisa Lange, PETA's vice president of communications, told CNN's "American Morning With Paula Zahn" on Friday that the idea for the public relations effort came from the late Nobel Prize-winning author Isaac Bashevis Singer, who, she said, wrote: "In relation to them [animals], all people are Nazis; for them it is an eternal Treblinka."
Lange said the campaign is appropriate because "Nazi concentration camps were modeled after slaughterhouses."
The Singer quote, which the group draws upon in its literature as well, was not spoken directly by him but rather comes from his short story, "The Letter Writer," when the main character Herman Gombiner is musing on the plight of animals. Treblinka was a Nazi death camp in Poland. Singer was a vegetarian who believed strongly in animal rights.
"It's shocking, it's startling, it's very hard to look at," Lange said of the exhibit. "We're attacking the mind-set" that condones the slaughter of animals.
"The very same mind-set that made the Holocaust possible -- that we can do anything we want to those we decide are 'different or inferior' -- is what allows us to commit atrocities against animals every single day," PETA representative Mark Prescott wrote in a statement, which added that members of Prescott's family were murdered by Nazis.
The Anti-Defamation League statement, however, counters that "abusive treatment of animals should be opposed, but cannot and must not be compared to the Holocaust."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/02/28/peta.holocaust/index.html
Friday, February 28, 2003 Posted: 12:51 PM EST (1751 GMT)
QUICKVOTE
PETA's comparison of the Nazi Holocaust to the slaughter of animals for food is:
An effective argument for animal rights
An unfair and outrageous comparison
VIEW RESULTS
(CNN) -- The Anti-Defamation League has denounced a campaign by an animal rights group that compares slaughtering animals to the murder of 6 million Jews in World War II.
The graphic campaign and exhibit "Holocaust on Your Plate," devised by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, juxtaposes 60-square-foot panels displaying gruesome scenes from Nazi death camps side by side with disturbing photographs from factory farms and slaughterhouses. One shows a starving man in a concentration camp next to a starving cow.
The exhibit opens Friday in San Diego, California, and went up Thursday at the University of California at Los Angeles. It also is posted on a PETA Web site, www.masskilling.com, which calls for support for the campaign from the Jewish community.
The comparisons prompted an angry statement from Abraham Foxman, Anti-Defamation League national director and a Holocaust survivor.
"The effort by PETA to compare the deliberate, systematic murder of millions of Jews to the issue of animal rights is abhorrent," the statement said. "PETA's effort to seek approval for their 'Holocaust on Your Plate' campaign is outrageous, offensive and takes chutzpah to new heights."
Lisa Lange, PETA's vice president of communications, told CNN's "American Morning With Paula Zahn" on Friday that the idea for the public relations effort came from the late Nobel Prize-winning author Isaac Bashevis Singer, who, she said, wrote: "In relation to them [animals], all people are Nazis; for them it is an eternal Treblinka."
Lange said the campaign is appropriate because "Nazi concentration camps were modeled after slaughterhouses."
The Singer quote, which the group draws upon in its literature as well, was not spoken directly by him but rather comes from his short story, "The Letter Writer," when the main character Herman Gombiner is musing on the plight of animals. Treblinka was a Nazi death camp in Poland. Singer was a vegetarian who believed strongly in animal rights.
"It's shocking, it's startling, it's very hard to look at," Lange said of the exhibit. "We're attacking the mind-set" that condones the slaughter of animals.
"The very same mind-set that made the Holocaust possible -- that we can do anything we want to those we decide are 'different or inferior' -- is what allows us to commit atrocities against animals every single day," PETA representative Mark Prescott wrote in a statement, which added that members of Prescott's family were murdered by Nazis.
The Anti-Defamation League statement, however, counters that "abusive treatment of animals should be opposed, but cannot and must not be compared to the Holocaust."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/02/28/peta.holocaust/index.html
Selfdfenz
Member
Aren't many of the comments this Matt person makes hate speech? Comparing people that eat meat with the most evil people of our times is polarizing and hateful. Isn't there a law againist this kind of thing. If this program contributed to the attack on a farmer someplace it seems that PETA would be partially reponsible.
Why not sue these people and put then out of business.
It worked with the KKK up to a point.
Some lawyer should be willing to take on a class action against these people. If their bank accounts dry up we can expect to see less ignorance of this type in the future.
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Why not sue these people and put then out of business.
It worked with the KKK up to a point.
Some lawyer should be willing to take on a class action against these people. If their bank accounts dry up we can expect to see less ignorance of this type in the future.
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Freedom in theSkies
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- Hey! I just found a button in my Solient Green!!!!!!!
All of this makes my glad that I am a vageterian
I would sooner see animals be treated humanly, but there are a lot of these PETA folks who are jumping off the diving board into an empty gene pool.
seeker_two
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That's almost as offensive as likening PETA-philes to rational, worthwhile human beings...
natedog
Member
About time to find one of those bumper stickers that says "Save a cow: eat a vegetarian"
MeekandMild
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Please. Its PETAphiles.
Ok, let me clarify. I wouldn't want people eating people...that night of the living dead stuff ain't kosher. Being Chinese, I'd give almost any living thing a try...battering and deep frying seems to make everyting taste the same.
Sergeant Bob
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If God didn't want us to eat chickens, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!
bad_dad_brad
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Comparing chickens to human beings is reprehensible. Despicable. An abomination.
A recent book I am reading entitled "Masters of Death" by Richard Rhodes should be required reading for every PETA hypocrite. This book describes in painfully emotional detail the beginning of the slaughter inflicted on the people of Eastern Europe by the SS killing squads which followed the advancing German Army.
A chicken, a pig, a bug, is not self-aware. They cannot anticipate their death. They know not the terror, then horrible resignation, that the victims of this early part of the holocaust felt as they waited to be shot. The Nazi's killed 1.5 million in this manner before there were large scale killings in concentration camps via nerve gas.
It is just obscene to make such a comparison. Makes me sick. Angry.
A recent book I am reading entitled "Masters of Death" by Richard Rhodes should be required reading for every PETA hypocrite. This book describes in painfully emotional detail the beginning of the slaughter inflicted on the people of Eastern Europe by the SS killing squads which followed the advancing German Army.
A chicken, a pig, a bug, is not self-aware. They cannot anticipate their death. They know not the terror, then horrible resignation, that the victims of this early part of the holocaust felt as they waited to be shot. The Nazi's killed 1.5 million in this manner before there were large scale killings in concentration camps via nerve gas.
It is just obscene to make such a comparison. Makes me sick. Angry.
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