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Petition for self defense in the UK?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Yoda, Dec 11, 2012.

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  1. Yoda

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    I was sent an e-mail urging me to sign a petition for armed self defense in the UK. Of course, I'm all for it, but why would such a petition drive be hosted by "change.org?" I thought "change.org" would be AGAINST armed self-defense. And why would the form that they want me to fill out be optimized for US addresses and postal codes? Am I being paranoid?

    Here's the link:
    http://www.change.org/petitions/the...et-of-polices-in-favour-of-armed-self-defence

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  2. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Because anyone can start a petition for anything there.
    Because it detects you are coming from an US IP address. If you access it from another country, it defaults to that country. I just connected to it from the UK and Germany and it changed the form accordingly.

    It's not like they do a particularly thorough vetting of new petitions. :D
    https://www.change.org/petitions/yoda-don-t-be-silly


    (Please don't take offense regarding the picture. That's the best one that came up for "silly yoda." :) The awesome comic sans with Comic Sans drop shadow MS Paint graphic is mainly for Justin's benefit.)
     
  3. JERRY

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    Brits dont want to own guns by and large, let alone carry one for defense, according to the way they vote.
     
  4. Inebriated

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    Gotta agree.

    I propose we trade their pro-gunners for our anti-gunners. Then everyone is happy.
     
  5. olafhardtB

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    Let the brits run Britian. It is not my affair.
     
  6. Pilot

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    Until their attitudes towards draconian bans, and restrictions on LEGAL guns bleeds over into the U.N. then affects our gun laws by U.S. politicians agreeing to U.N. gun bans. There is tremendous international pressure on the U.S. to be more restrictive on U.S. citizens owning guns.
     
  7. Odd Job
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    I agree, but it must go deeper than that: let those who agree that individual responsibility is king, aggregate :)

    On the topic of petitions, there is a direct.gov site in the UK for serious petitions. Given that the number of signatures wasn't all that high to reclassify .22 pistols as Section 1 for the Olympics, I doubt there would be many signatures for a self-defense petition, even involving existing black powder pistols for argument sake.

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/360
     
  8. Blackstone

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    The problem is that British shooters lack unity. The UK's NRA is very very different to the NRA of the USA. In Britain, you have many shooting bodies, but they all just look out for their own disciplines. The NRA-UK is about centerfire rifle shooting, you have British Shooting which is only for ISSF disciplines, and there's BASC which is for shotgunners and other hunters. They lack the lobbying power of the USA NRA.

    In 1997, the NRA were happy to throw the pistol shooters to the wolves as long as they could keep shooting their long range rifles. The shotgunners weren't fussed either. None of them had the idea that they should stand firm with all shooters, because their discipline could be next on the chopping block.
     
  9. firesky101

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    Jorg I wish to sign your petition but am wary of entering my name and address on a petition that mentions guns.:p
     
  10. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    That's too bad, firesky. The petition isn't getting very good support.

    Oddly, to create a petition doesn't require anything more than an email address.
     
  11. Teachu2

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    The Brits are still regretting letting the colonists have guns. :p
     
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