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Pietta 1851 Navy

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by red rick, Jun 8, 2022.

  1. red rick

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    Does Pietta make a 1851 Navy with a blue frame and not case hardened ? The reason I ask is Midway has one and their description was steel blue frame and wood grips . The picture doesn’t look case hardened . They have another advertised as hardened steel frame blue with polymer grips . The picture shows a nice case hardened frame . They also give a manufacturer number , but it doesn’t match any number that I searched from Pietta .
     
  2. JCooperfan1911

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    Have you a link for the gun? I couldn’t find it.
     
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  3. red rick

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    At Midway’s site , I searched Pietta 1851 Navy . The product number is 454943 . Manufacturers number FR1851236 . $279.99
     
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  4. Malachi Leviticus Blue

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    It looks case hardened in the image.
    It doesn't say "steel blue frame"
    it says "Pietta 1851 Navy Black Powder Revolver 36 Caliber 7.5" Barrel Steel Frame Blue"
    Not super clear, but I'd assume the following are individual descriptors in general -
    Pietta 1851 Navy
    Black Powder Revolver
    36 Caliber
    7.5" Barrel
    Steel Frame
    Blue
     
  5. hawg

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    None of them are actually case hardened. The CCH is an acid wash.
     
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  6. Malachi Leviticus Blue

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    Not sure of the actual procedure, but Pietta is not performing a true case hardening procedure, it is a finish.
    But they are hard, and have pretty colors.
     
  7. red rick

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    That is the look that I am looking for . The one I mentioned didn’t have that look . Other Pietta!s list color case hardened frame , this one does not .
     
  8. 1KPerDay

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    Midway part number 454943 definitely has the faux color case hardened frame finish.
     
  9. red rick

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    Look at the one pictured above #170038 , It is the model with polymer grips . I can really see the case color and it mentions it in the description . Maybe it is a bad picture, but they don’t look the same color and it doesn’t mention CCH anywhere in the description like most of the descriptions do in the model I first referred to with the walnut grip .
     
  10. Malachi Leviticus Blue

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    Yes # 170038 has the colors more apparent in the photo, but 454943 definitely has the faux color case hardened frame finish as well just not as good of a photo to showcase them.
     
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    A 1851 Colt Navy London Model would have blued steel back strap and trigger guard .
     
  12. Ephraim Kibbey

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    Why not call them and ask?
     
  13. JCooperfan1911

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    Here’s mine for reference:

    140-DD53-B-740-A-4-CA8-B80-C-4202-C890-B9-E0.jpg
     
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  14. DeeTV

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    Some of Midway's product descriptions are just plain wrong, as in "blued barrel" on a Pedersoli Charleville.
     
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  15. red rick

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    I couldn’t find a number for Pietta only email . I figured Midway’s customer service phone help couldn’t tell me anymore than I could read from their description . I also searched the manufacturer’s number Midway list in a search on Pietta’s website with no matches . That’s when I asked here .
     
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    But the frame is still "color case hardened."
     
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    They aren't all the same color. Many variations in coloration, pattern, etc. on the "case hardened" frames. But both images definitely have Pietta's case hardened frames, as do all of Pietta's Colt cap and ball steel-framed models to my knowledge that have blued barrels and cylinders. they have "old silver" finish, which looks like stainless, and "Old West" finishes which is a standard finish that has been artificially aged/weathered. But as far as I know Pietta doesn't offer any cap and ball colts with blued steel frames (other than the Paterson, which has been out of production for quite a while).

    If you want a Pietta cap and ball revolver with a blued steel frame, try a Remington New Model Army.
     
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  18. JCooperfan1911

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    Or a Rogers & Spencer.
     
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    Or this one
    cat00127_01_1.jpg
     
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    :uhoh: That one has a case hardened frame…
     
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  21. Ephraim Kibbey

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    I would call Midway Sales, tell them you are interested in buying one, you are confused by the online description and ask them to open one up and look!
     
  22. red rick

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    I have a Uberti Remington New Army and I thought all of the Pietta’s were color case hardened . The one In that picture sure doesn’t look very good from others that I have seen .
     
  23. red rick

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    That is what I am looking for , a color case harden frame , I am not looking for the London model . I would be disappointed if it looked like that picture I referenced .
     
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    All Pietta Colt's have CCH frames whether the backstrap and trigger guard are brass or blued. Pietta also makes or made a CCH Remington. I had a Uberti Cattleman with CCH so bad the frame was white with a few blotches of pastel yellow.
     
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