Piettas Last Straw

[midland man]

its just the threads of the back of the barrel its normal!! just shoot it before you strip it and see it works fine then go for it!

 

[bannockburn]

jmar

Kind of hard to tell what exactly is the "gouge" that you're referring to from your photos. I looked at quite a few new Uberti and Piertta Model 1858s online and found any number of them that had machining/milling marks similar to the one you have on your gun. If this particular gun isn't up to par in terms of fit and finish I would suggest returning it to wherever you got it from for either a replacement or a refund.

 

[col.lemat]

I agree with post #26 it is normal. But in all honesty I don't think black powder is in the cards for you. there is a lot of fuss and bother that goes with the sport.

 

[jmar]

Here are better pictures

This is the area in question, the top strap not the barrel threads. This one is an original and it doesn't have it.












From looking around online only Piettas have this issue, but mine is the worse i've seen. Yet another disappointment. But i guess i have to keep this one as i already started burnishing the markings.

 

[jmar]

I agree with post #26 it is normal. But in all honesty I don't think black powder is in the cards for you. there is a lot of fuss and bother that goes with the sport.

I love blackpowder shooting i just want a gun that isn't defective.

 

[1KPerDay]

It's not defective. Pietta Remingtsons all have that overly rounded corner. Looks to me like where they drill a big hole across the frame or something. You can see one of mine here
https://youtu.be/IrpmALYnFZY?t=3m21s

 

[BCRider]

It looks like Remington didn't have that but Pietta does.

FWIW my two mid 1990'is made Uberti '58's don't have that deep scallop either.

Clearly from 1K's video it isn't going to be a functional issue. It's more a reflection of the price point of the gun.

 

[mr wack]

My Pietta has the " scalloped " look also , made in 2012
Truth be known I didn't notice it until I followed this thread,,,,,

 

[Old Fuff]

The scallop in front of the cylinder was milled into the frame to provide a way for gas and powder fouling to escape. Over time on the original revolvers the depth and size varied.

I have two Remington/Pietta's from two different importers, and each is slightly different. As a practical matter it doesn't matter. They also cost more then those generally offered by Cabelas'.

Cabelas' offers Pietta C&B revolvers at very attractive prices, especially when they are on sale. As a consequence they sell more then most distributors/dealers. But to do this they buy the manufacturer's least expensive grade. This may (or may not) be reflected in slightly minor flaws in machining and cosmetics, and less handwork on the interior lockwork. Even so, they offer excellent value for the money spent.

If one buys an inexpensive car they usually don't expect it to be as well finished, and of equal quality, when matched against a luxury model costing from somewhat to much more. the same principal applies to firearms.

Ultimately the question is (or should be) "How does it shoot?" I suspect the answer will be, "Very well."

 

[whughett]

Guys the gun was bought new from Cabelas online. So this should be as it came straight from Piettas factory. Maybe there's a small chance this was a returned item that was defective but that would still be a fault to Pietta unless the person who returned it broke it. Visually the gun looks good "besides the markings" nothing felt loose and there were no scratches on the bluing. just the problem with the hammer not cocking, probably a broken spring or a part was shaved to much. That being said i only looked at it for a minute probably before packing it back up.

There's a slip that came with the package that i need to fill out ship back and wait for 3 weeks for a new one to arrive. As far as i know that's the only option for returning.

Man I am with you on this one. Brand new from a dealer. That thing should work. That's like buying a refrigerator and not having it get cold. Oh I'll just strip her down and fix it. :banghead:

 

[mr wack]

I was thinking that was the reason for the cut , I guess it diverts the gas 'n' stuff away for the important bits..
Thanks Old Fuff.

 

[expat_alaska]

I agree with post #26 it is normal. But in all honesty I don't think black powder is in the cards for you. there is a lot of fuss and bother that goes with the sport.

OP: I think you need to get on a 1911 forum and argue with the purists.

Been there and done that. I'm done.

I like the BP forums because there usually is not much argument, just discussion, but much camaraderie, and a genuine exchange of information to be found. No competition, per se. It is a much different atmosphere here, and I think most of us are very comfortable with it.

And, most of us are old farts with no great obsession to get into forum brawls.

That's what makes the BP forums entirely different than the modern gun forums, and I am grateful for it.

Jim

 

[jmar]

Welp since the issue was resolved in the first few hours i'm not really mad about this issue anymore so i guess i'll just make this my build thread. It is a shame that there's that big gouge but its just another thing to deal with when you buy Pietta it seems.

I got done defarbing it, the burnishing did nothing. I just used a file instead i missed a few spots but i'm hoping the browning will hide it. What are all your thoughts on bird head grips? There's lots of extra meat on the handle i could take off it might be cool.

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

...the burnishing did nothing. I just used a file instead...

What did you use to burnish? If the burnishing did nothing then I think your tool wasn't hard enough, or you didn't have enough patience, or maybe both.

It is worth the effort, but as long as you are enjoying the project however you do it, it is all good.

 

[jmar]

What did you use to burnish? If the burnishing did nothing then I think your tool wasn't hard enough, or you didn't have enough patience, or maybe both.

It is worth the effort, but as long as you are enjoying the project however you do it, it is all good.

I used the end of a socket wrench then a push rod from a 350 Chevy engine. It defiantly made the markings less noticeable but it was still there. Is it supposed to eliminate the marking completely? I haven't found a single before and after picture online.

 

[jmar]

Ok the gun is done, unfortunately the hand spring broke so i cant use it at all.. Came out really nice my goal was to make it look like it was carried around in someones holster for 30 years in the west. Not age it 150 years. After the pictures i darkened the loading lever to get rid of the copperish color, looks so much better now. Something i would have done different is darken the brown everywhere but my bottle was already half full by the time i was done and that stuff isn't cheap. I didn't weather it, that's the process of rubbing the finish off all the spots it makes contact to you and your holster. I thought it would do it on its own if i just used it a lot, and look more realistic. If you fancy this gun keep an eye out for it in the for sale section i may or may not sell it i'm undecided at the moment. Anyways here's the pictures.

 

[1KPerDay]

Looks good. I wouldn't do it to mine but I can't deny that looks legit.

 

[Panzerschwein]

Jmar:

That '58 looks FREAKING SICK BRUH.

VERY good job on it. Looks like something Clint would whip out from his box at the beginning of Unforgiven. It looks like it "road the river" out west for many a year, in a good way.

 

[bannockburn]

jmar

Very nice work with the "wear and tear; rode hard and put away wet" aging job you've done there! Looks like it's been through the war and back again.