Pistol caliber rifles

[Nighteyes]

Its too bad the 30 carbine is a dying round, they are getting hard to find and not getting any cheaper. my dad has a M-1 30 carbine and he loves that thing

May I suggest that you take an online look at Georgia Arms? They've got good deals on some really good .30 carbine ammunition. And BTW, their .308 match ammunition is absolutely outstanding!!!

http://georgia-arms.com/30carbine-1.aspx

-- Nighteyes

 

[javjacob]

(quote) I don't think so. Go to the Ballistic Calculator at gundata.org and compare the two rounds. http://gundata.org/ballistic-calculator/

You will see that the .30 carbine round "out-hots" the .357 round in velocity and bullet-drop. In other words, it shoots flatter. Also know that the chief complaints about, and problems with, handguns chambered for .30 carbine rounds centered on the recoil and the loudness/sharpness of the report.

The .357 round does have more energy, which is no doubt due in part to the heavier bullet. .30 carbine bullets weigh no more than 110 grains, while the most popular .357 rounds weigh in at 125 to 158 grains.

Still, I wouldn't want to be hit with either one of them.
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I guess comparing the 30 carbine to the 357 mag is sort of like comparing the 17HMR to the 22mag.
It has a slightly faster velocity because the bullet is 2/3rds the weight. the 357 hits harder though no matter how you want to look at it though. velocity isn't everything. the right 357 round can be right on the heels of the 30-30.

 

[oldcelt]

Just got a Win.mod.94 45 colt made in New Haven Ct. Very gently used, unblemished. It is a good shooter nowI wanta 357 levergun and can't find one that is sensibly priced.

 

[Merle1]

Marlin 32-20, 41 Mag & 44 Mag. Also a Hi Point in 40 S&W.

I like all of them.

 

[Merle1]

Any pistols chambered in .30?

There have been; the Ruger SA, an Automag 2 and the TC Contender come to mind.

 

[JTHunter]

Wow! Talk about getting a fountain if info!

Thanks for all the feedback.

Yesterday, I went to a gunshop about 50 mi. south of here to see what they have. I tried the "fit & feel" of both a Winchester ($$$!!!) , a Rossi 92, a Marlin 1894, and a Uberti ($$$$!!!!) . Unfortunately, none were in the .38/.357 I seek.

One of the concerns I had about the Winchester and the Rossi copy is that the top eject could allow dirt and/or water in and would interfere with mounting a scope. I also found that those curved, unpadded heels on the stock didn't fit my shoulder comfortably. As a result, I'm leaning heavily towards the Marlin with the side eject and rubber pad.

Now, if I could just FIND one! GoG, Armslist, Gunsamerica. etc. don't seem to have any in stock or they are selling "unknown quality" used guns for over MSRP! None of the LGSs have been able to find any from their suppliers either. They have also speculated that the conglomerate that bought Marlin (and Remington and a couple of others) may have a hand in this "problem".

Thanks again for all your interesting feedback!

 

[oldcelt]

Yesterday I went to the gs I have been doing business with for 40 years. Big surprise, not a gun to be seen. I asked his wife what was going on and she told me it was a license transfer. I don't buy it. I think it was A.T.F.E. but I don,t know, have heard nothing. I consider this a major loss for me and many others I know.

 

[CraigC]

One of the concerns I had about the Winchester and the Rossi copy is that the top eject could allow dirt and/or water in and would interfere with mounting a scope. I also found that those curved, unpadded heels on the stock didn't fit my shoulder comfortably. As a result, I'm leaning heavily towards the Marlin with the side eject and rubber pad.

Dirt/water is a non-issue but the 92 is a poor choice if you plan to use an optic. Unless you want a scout setup.

A crescent buttplate should not be planted in the pocket of the shoulder like a shotgun butt. It should be placed further out on the arm, where the hell will curve into your armpit.

 

[mstreddy]

Wow, some great carbines above.
I have several pistol caliber rifles/carbines. I have the Rossi 92 in 357, AR15 in 9, AR15 (sort of) Just Right carbine in 40, MP5 clones in 9 and 45, and a Thompson M1 in 45.
They are all lots of fun.

 

[Nighteyes]

Besides the M-1 carbine and the older Marlin 1894C, I have an Uberti 1860 Henry and an Uberti 1866 Winchester carbine. Both are in .45 Colt.





The '66 carbine, in particular, has a very smooth action. I bought it new, and shot the bejeebers out of it in over 100 cowboy matches at a windy-and-dusty range near the town of Piru CA. Naturally the wind worked the finely-powdered dust into the action, and each shot caused just the tiniest bit of abrasion of the faces of the moving parts. I thoroughly cleaned the carbine after each match. Pretty soon the action was as smooth as could be -- a phenomenon that has locally become famous as the "Piru Action Job."

 

[spence]

I have the ruger p40, no longer made ,but you can still pick one up for around 550 . ruger also made one in9mm (the p9). the have integral ruger base for rings plus open sights.built like a tank, and never jams.

 

[mstreddy]

Spence just reminded me -- I also have the Ruger PC9.
It is a very good shooter. Solid, and uses the Ruger Pxx series mags.
Oh, and I also forgot -- I have the Beretta CX Storm Carbine -- in 9 and 40.

OK, now I think I've listed all of my pistol caliber carbines/rifles. -- maybe -- I also have the Mech-Tech conversion uppers for the Glock 9mms and the M1911s in 45. http://www.mechtechsys.com/

Oh, I always forget the Uzi in 9.

 

[DeadFlies]

I picked up a Hi-Point carbine in 9mm because I've found it difficult to find a place to shoot my centerfire rifles around here. Madison aint too firearms friendly. Wisconsin winters don't help, either.

Pistol ranges, both indoor and outdoor, are much easier to come by. So having a pistol-caliber carbine just adds some variety and fun.