Pistol caliber rifles

[Furncliff]

I like PC carbines because they are cheap and easy to reload. Reloading also gives you the chance to tailor your loads.
Marlin 1894c 38/357
Hi Point 45
Marlin camp 9.

Beside being fun to shoot a PCC is a great way to transition new shooters from rimfire to centerfire.

 

[JustinJ]

I have an HK USC which I did the conversion to although I haven't SBR'ed it yet. It's a blast to shoot although the only real advantage I find over rifle rounds is how quiet the gun is. From a 16" barrel I was amazed at just how little noise .45 acp makes.

 

[PO2Hammer]

I like 'em.
I currently own a Handi rifle in .357/30-30/.410 and the H&R classic carbine in .45 Colt. Owned many others over the years.
They are very easy on the ears, an important factor for me since I have tinnitus. They are also easy to load for. No case lubes, neck dies, etc...

 

[Inebriated]

I have a Hi Point 995.

I like that it's cheap to shoot, helpful in getting new shooters into centerfire, and I reload for it.

I don't like that, for the weight, it only shoots 9mm.

 

[jerrard]

At 70 yrs old now, I really appreciate my Hi Point 45, M1 carbine, and Henry Big Boy 45 Colt. It's getting real hard to hold that old Garand up!

 

[dprice3844444]

http://www.mechtechsys.com/
http://www.justrightcarbines.com/JR_Carbine_Products.html pistol caliber ar-15 types

 

[jcwit]

I've wanted a Spanish Destroyer in 9mm Largo for some time. Used to pass them up at gun shoes, now I can't find them at all.

 

[blue32]

I'd really like to see a leverevolution bullet for the original WCF lever gun rounds that open up in the 900 to 1800fps area. Or maybe a cast hollow point bullet that had a polymer insert for easy expansion, maybe with a bhn of 8 and a gas check.

 

[PapaG]

Winchester 94, 44 Mag from the sixties. Light. Accurate. Kicked like a mule. Added a pad and a little lead. Two problems: won't shoot cast bullets accurately over about 1100 fps and won't take my 429421s unless I crimp over the front band.
Marlin 94, 44 mag, before the crossbolt safety. Heavier, more accurate, docile. Doesn't like 44 specials unless slug loaded "out".
Old Winchester 92, 357 mag. Converted by Ward Koozer for my brother and me in the late 60s. 24" barrel, rifle buttplate. Don't do a "rifleman" with it...it will hurt your groin. We had the big loop lever and set screw. Changed it back. Used to be accurate but I can't tell now as I can't see the iron sights well enough.
Marlin 94, 357. My favorite. Needs 357 length ctgs to feed well. Very accurate with anything from 125 to 158 grain jsp/jhps.
Had, briefly, a HiPoint 9mm carbine. Too heavy and ugly. Give me walnut and blue steel.
Velocities from all the carbines and rifle were from 200 to 450 fps faster than from my 29 6" or my Security six 6".
Wish we could use handgun caliber rifles in IL for deer.

 

[Nighteyes]

Let's not forget that the trusty ol' M-1 carbine is essentially a pistol-caliber rifle. The .30 carbine round is very similar to the .357 magnum round; just slightly hotter.

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

At last count I have seven rifles and carbines that fire 'pistol-caliber' ammo. Five of them are chambered for 44-40, one for 38-40, and one for 357 Mag. They are all lever guns.



Uberti replica Winchester Model 1873, 44-40 caliber.






Uberti replica 1860 Henry, 44-40 caliber.






Winchester Model 1892, 44-40 caliber, manufactured 1894.






Winchester Model 1873, 38-40 caliber, manufactured 1887.






The rifle at the top of this photo is a Marlin Model 1894, 44-40 caliber, manufactured 1895. The carbine at the bottom of the photo is a Marlin Model 1894CS, 357 Magnum. Not very old.






Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, 44-40 caliber, made around 1918.



For what its worth, all of these rifles, except the little Marlin are almost always shot with Black Powder loads.

What's not to like about any of them?

 

[stressed]

Let's not forget that the trusty ol' M-1 carbine is essentially a pistol-caliber rifle. The .30 carbine round is very similar to the .357 magnum round; just slightly hotter.

Any pistols chambered in .30?

 

[goalie]

Single shot H&R in .357.

Accurate and fun to experiment with loads in. Strong as a bank vault. Good pig/deer gun.

This, but in .44 mag. Inexpensive, strong, safe. Very handy deer hunting due to it's short length.

Recoil is mild for what you get out of the muzzle.

 

[RMc]

Yes.

Pistol caliber carbines are rapidly replacing sub-caliber sabot shotgun slugs for deer hunting in many states.

 

[Nighteyes]

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[Nighteyes]

Any pistols chambered in .30?

Actually there are production (as opposed to custom) handguns chambered for the .30 carbine round. They include the Ruger Blackhawk and the AMT Automag III.

 

[stressed]

Satisfies me Wish the 9x23 win took on more. In reloading it reaches or surpasses said ballistics out of a carbine, in a smaller size.

 

[ejfalvo]

I have a Storm 45ACP. Accurate, fun to shoot, perfect for my HD option as the caliber matches my Sig P220s and P227.

 

[PO2Hammer]

That's a beautiful collection of lever guns up there Driftwood Johnson.
That Winchester 1873 wins the beauty contest though.

 

[javjacob]

I want a marlin 1894C 357mag

 

[javjacob]

(quote) Let's not forget that the trusty ol' M-1 carbine is essentially a pistol-caliber rifle. The .30 carbine round is very similar to the .357 magnum round; just slightly hotter (QUOTE)

the 357mag is the hotter round of the two and has a good edge over the 30 carbine in energy. Its too bad the 30 carbine is a dying round, they are getting hard to find and not getting any cheaper. my dad has a M-1 30 carbine and he loves that thing

 

[Mp7]

rebarrelling a Destroyer Carbine would be nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywa7HQ3Nhu4

 

[.338-06]

My favorite is my Auto-Ordnance M1 Thompson. It is simply fun to shoot! Very little recoil for a .45-due to it weighing 12 pounds!

 

[Nighteyes]

I want a marlin 1894C 357mag

I recommend 'em. Mine is an older one with micro-groove rifling, and some modifications/improvements to make it effective in cowboy action shooting. With 158-grain JHP rounds it shoots remarkably flat out to about 200 yards. Much further than that, the trajectory begins looking like the bullet fell off a table.

 

[Nighteyes]

the 357mag is the hotter round of the two and has a good edge over the 30 carbine in energy.

I don't think so. Go to the Ballistic Calculator at gundata.org and compare the two rounds. http://gundata.org/ballistic-calculator/

You will see that the .30 carbine round "out-hots" the .357 round in velocity and bullet-drop. In other words, it shoots flatter. Also know that the chief complaints about, and problems with, handguns chambered for .30 carbine rounds centered on the recoil and the loudness/sharpness of the report.

The .357 round does have more energy, which is no doubt due in part to the heavier bullet. .30 carbine bullets weigh no more than 110 grains, while the most popular .357 rounds weigh in at 125 to 158 grains.

Still, I wouldn't want to be hit with either one of them.