Places where gun registration has led to confiscation?
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Bartholomew Roberts
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New York City used registration of semi-automatic weapons to ben them entirely in the 1990s. Canada, Australia and England have all used registration to enforce total bans. Then there is the whole SKS debacle in California where SKS owners were allowed to register them later than the original deadline under that state's ban and then a new Attorney General decided to enforce the original deadline and gather up all the registered weapons.
Check http://www.guncite.com/ for at least a few documented examples.
Check http://www.guncite.com/ for at least a few documented examples.
jacobtowne
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Great Britain, handguns.
JT
JT
countertop
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New Jersey - so called "assault" weapons
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oh, and Maryland. Doug Duncan - the Montgomery County Executive who is running for Governor right now - was the person responsible for hiring that fraud Charles Moose and approving of his plan to go door to door to confiscate for "investigative testing" all the AR 15s that had been sold/registered in Montgomery County.
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oh, and Maryland. Doug Duncan - the Montgomery County Executive who is running for Governor right now - was the person responsible for hiring that fraud Charles Moose and approving of his plan to go door to door to confiscate for "investigative testing" all the AR 15s that had been sold/registered in Montgomery County.
another okie
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Name someplace it hasn't.
Bartholomew Roberts
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There was no registration in New Orleans, so it would be hard to argue it led to confiscation.
alan
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Alex45ACP:
Try the following. New York City, New Jersey, and Cleveland Ohio, as I recall, din't forget California. The foregoing is a short list, that just poped into my mind, having seen your question.
Try the following. New York City, New Jersey, and Cleveland Ohio, as I recall, din't forget California. The foregoing is a short list, that just poped into my mind, having seen your question.
Countries:
Germany, Britain, Australia, and Canada. Japan*. Several countries in africa, usually before the place descends into being a hellhole of genocidal infighting.
California, New York
*They let you register it until they decide not to.
Germany, Britain, Australia, and Canada. Japan*. Several countries in africa, usually before the place descends into being a hellhole of genocidal infighting.
California, New York
*They let you register it until they decide not to.
HankB
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IIRC in Cleveland a couple of decades ago they used registration lists to locate owners of certain types of handguns (so called Saturday Night Specials?) which were subsequently outlawed.
And of course California first registered, then banned certain SKS rifles, and used the registration lists to harass the owners.
Sweden . . . a colleague (now retired) told me how growing up in the Old Country, his father had owned a pair of Colt single-action revolvers. The Swedes decided to outlaw (some or all?) handguns, so a couple of Swedish cops came by to collect them. The colleague's father served them a drink and told them he'd fetch the guns right along.
A few minutes passed, the Swedish cops heard some noise from out back, and went to investigate.
The man had the two Colt revolvers on an anvil and was beating the $*1T out of them with a sledgehammer.
The two Swedish cops were very, very, VERY angry, as they'd expected to confiscate a couple of pristine collector's items. I gather a number of words were exchanged, the mildest of which involved the Swedish cop's illegitimate canine ancestry . . .
And of course California first registered, then banned certain SKS rifles, and used the registration lists to harass the owners.
Sweden . . . a colleague (now retired) told me how growing up in the Old Country, his father had owned a pair of Colt single-action revolvers. The Swedes decided to outlaw (some or all?) handguns, so a couple of Swedish cops came by to collect them. The colleague's father served them a drink and told them he'd fetch the guns right along.
A few minutes passed, the Swedish cops heard some noise from out back, and went to investigate.
The man had the two Colt revolvers on an anvil and was beating the $*1T out of them with a sledgehammer.
The two Swedish cops were very, very, VERY angry, as they'd expected to confiscate a couple of pristine collector's items. I gather a number of words were exchanged, the mildest of which involved the Swedish cop's illegitimate canine ancestry . . .
I don't know of anyone in New Jersey who has had their registered weapons confiscated.
Of course those who commit robberies, etc. have their guns seized as contraband but that is totally different than a general 'confiscation' of registered firearms.
Edit: as far as I can tell, NYC passed a law which closely resembles 'confiscation'. It did give owners the option to remove the AW firearm from the city instead of turning it in.
Of course those who commit robberies, etc. have their guns seized as contraband but that is totally different than a general 'confiscation' of registered firearms.
Edit: as far as I can tell, NYC passed a law which closely resembles 'confiscation'. It did give owners the option to remove the AW firearm from the city instead of turning it in.
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V4Vendetta
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http://www.keepandbeararms.com/downloads/GunFacts_v3.2.pdf
It did in Canada. The handgun registration law of 1934 is the source being used to confiscate (without compensation) over ½ of the handguns in 2001.
It did in Germany. The 1928 Law on Firearms and Ammunition (before the Nazis came to power) required all firearms to be registered. When Hitler came to power, the existing lists were used for confiscating weapons.
It did in Australia. In 1996, the Australian government confiscated ove 660,000 previously legal weapons from their citizens.
It did in California. The 1989 Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act required registration. Due to changing definitions of “assault weapons”, many legal firearms are now being confiscated by the California government.
It did in New York City. In 1967, New York City passed an ordinance requiring a citizen
to obtain a permit to own a rifle or shotgun, which would then be registered. In 1991, the city passed a ban on the private possession of some semi-automatic rifles and shotguns and ‘registered’ owners were told that those firearms had to be surrendered, rendered inoperable, or taken out of the city.
It did in Bermuda, Cuba, Greece, Ireland, Jamaica, and Soviet Georgia as well.
It did in Canada. The handgun registration law of 1934 is the source being used to confiscate (without compensation) over ½ of the handguns in 2001.
It did in Germany. The 1928 Law on Firearms and Ammunition (before the Nazis came to power) required all firearms to be registered. When Hitler came to power, the existing lists were used for confiscating weapons.
It did in Australia. In 1996, the Australian government confiscated ove 660,000 previously legal weapons from their citizens.
It did in California. The 1989 Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act required registration. Due to changing definitions of “assault weapons”, many legal firearms are now being confiscated by the California government.
It did in New York City. In 1967, New York City passed an ordinance requiring a citizen
to obtain a permit to own a rifle or shotgun, which would then be registered. In 1991, the city passed a ban on the private possession of some semi-automatic rifles and shotguns and ‘registered’ owners were told that those firearms had to be surrendered, rendered inoperable, or taken out of the city.
It did in Bermuda, Cuba, Greece, Ireland, Jamaica, and Soviet Georgia as well.
AirForceShooter
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Bless Florida.
Our STATE Constitution forbids gun registration.
Ain't we great!!!
AFS
Our STATE Constitution forbids gun registration.
Ain't we great!!!
AFS
Harve Curry
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New York. The Sullivan Law. I think it was the year 1906, still in effect and growing.
Creeping Incrementalism
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San Francisco, potentially
Although I believe no mass confiscations will occur, San Francisco's handgun ban, currently tied up in the courts, could potentially be a case.
In California, for the past six years or so, all transfers of handguns, person-to-person or retail, have been registered, and everyone moving into the state has to declare their hadguns. So the San Francisco police could potentially get the list and go door to door. But since even the police opposed the law, even if it doesn't get overturned, I don't think confiscations would occur. For now.
Although I believe no mass confiscations will occur, San Francisco's handgun ban, currently tied up in the courts, could potentially be a case.
In California, for the past six years or so, all transfers of handguns, person-to-person or retail, have been registered, and everyone moving into the state has to declare their hadguns. So the San Francisco police could potentially get the list and go door to door. But since even the police opposed the law, even if it doesn't get overturned, I don't think confiscations would occur. For now.
engineer151515
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As previously noted by V4Vendetta
Nazi Germany - Hitler used previously enacted laws (requiring registration and licenses to purchase ammunition) to provide his "lists".
The Night of the Broken Glass (Kristallnacht)--the infamous Nazi rampage against Germany's Jews--took place in November 1938. It was preceded by the confiscation of firearms from the Jewish victims. On Nov. 8, the New York Times reported from Berlin, "Berlin Police Head Announces 'Disarming' of Jews,"...............
Other European countries also had laws requiring police records to be kept on persons who possessed firearms. When the Nazis took over Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1939, it was a simple matter to identify gun owners. Many of them disappeared in the middle of the night along with political opponents.
source
http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html
Nazi Germany - Hitler used previously enacted laws (requiring registration and licenses to purchase ammunition) to provide his "lists".
The Night of the Broken Glass (Kristallnacht)--the infamous Nazi rampage against Germany's Jews--took place in November 1938. It was preceded by the confiscation of firearms from the Jewish victims. On Nov. 8, the New York Times reported from Berlin, "Berlin Police Head Announces 'Disarming' of Jews,"...............
Other European countries also had laws requiring police records to be kept on persons who possessed firearms. When the Nazis took over Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1939, it was a simple matter to identify gun owners. Many of them disappeared in the middle of the night along with political opponents.
source
http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html
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