Plated .45 Load
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rcmodel
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Ranier says their plated bullets use lead bullet data.
Berry says their plated bullets use mid-level jacketed data.
I don't know what RMR says.
I go with Berry, as plated bullets have more bore friction then grease lubed lead, and you could possibly get in trouble with a stuck bullet using very low lead bullet starting loads.
rc
Berry says their plated bullets use mid-level jacketed data.
I don't know what RMR says.
I go with Berry, as plated bullets have more bore friction then grease lubed lead, and you could possibly get in trouble with a stuck bullet using very low lead bullet starting loads.
rc
5.0 to 5.5 Grs of W-231 will shoot very well. 5.0 will be under standard 230 gr ball velocities, but be pleasant to shoot and accurate. 5.5 Grs will be accurate and will get you close to standard 230 Gr ball velocities, if that is what you want.
I have shot a bunch of 200 to 230 Gr plated bullets with both 5.0 and 5.5 Grs of W-231.
I have shot a bunch of 200 to 230 Gr plated bullets with both 5.0 and 5.5 Grs of W-231.
Plated does not need to be restricted to lead data, but full jacketed data can get us in trouble with some combinations.
Some plated data.
Be patient. Some of it is slow loading.
Some plated data.
Be patient. Some of it is slow loading.
tactikel
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I shoot Ranier 230 gr RN infront of 4.5 grs Titegroups. It is clean, functions reliably, and is very accurate.
I use 5.3 grains of HP-38 (same as Win 231) with a 230 grain Rainier plated FMJ, and an OAL of 1.25. I like how they shoot, when I used lead data they were too weak for my 1911s so I worked a load up starting at 4.5 grains and an OALs ranging from 1.24-1.26. After my work up I liked the 5.3 grains with 1.25 OAL the best.
LiveLife
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+1 for 5-5.5 gr of W231/HP38 for 230gr with 1.25" OAL - very accurate load.
chevy_dmax
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5.3 grains of 231, berry's here. Nice shooting, accurate in my 1911, sorry no chrono data.
Bill.
Bill.
LeonCarr
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Keep in mind that the Speer Gold Dots are plated bullets, and one can use the starting loading data when working up a load with other plated bullets.
ALWAYS FOLLOW SAFE RELOADING PRACTICES.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
ALWAYS FOLLOW SAFE RELOADING PRACTICES.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
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Ive been using 5 grains of Green Dot and 230 plated bullets from RMR.
The Bushmaster
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Load plated bullets with what ever you like as long as you keep them at or under 1200 fps and the data comes from a reputable load data manual...
dc.fireman
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My phone call to Berry's reloading specialist provided me with the following information regarding the use of their plated bullets -
* keep them under 1200 fps - not typically an issue for .45 Auto
* If you can't find any info specifically for Berry's Plated Bullets from a reloading manual, use the info for Speer Gold Dots - they nearly identical.
He recommended that I use either Bullseye or 700X for the powder. I used 700X, because it was what was available to me at the time, and I'm still using it:
My favorite load for all around shooting is 4.3gr. of 700X, and I was using new pre-primed Remington cases. I loaded out 10 of each of 4.0, 4.4, 4.6, & 4.8. The 4.8 seemed a little hotter than I liked - the people at the NRA range packed up their stuff and left, because it was rattling the stall walls, and it was shooting a fairly sizeable fireball from the muzzle.
I felt comfortable with the 4.6 - not as hot, but the accuracy wasn't the greatest in my 1911A1 either.
When I hit 4.4, the group was tight enough for me, and the seat of the pants chrony told me it "felt right". The group size was around 1" for a five shot string, at 10 yards, and I wasn't trying for accuracy, just testing the function and fit of my first .45 Auto rounds.
The 4.2 grains cycled the slide, and I had one FTE, where the case stovepiped in the ejection port.
I then loaded 50 of them out to 4.3-4.4 grains (I was trying hard to get 4.3 consistently, but the Uni Powder Measure just wouldn't do it), and thats what I have been using for the last 3 weeks, loading about 500 rounds.
Hope the info helps.
-tc
* keep them under 1200 fps - not typically an issue for .45 Auto
* If you can't find any info specifically for Berry's Plated Bullets from a reloading manual, use the info for Speer Gold Dots - they nearly identical.
He recommended that I use either Bullseye or 700X for the powder. I used 700X, because it was what was available to me at the time, and I'm still using it:
My favorite load for all around shooting is 4.3gr. of 700X, and I was using new pre-primed Remington cases. I loaded out 10 of each of 4.0, 4.4, 4.6, & 4.8. The 4.8 seemed a little hotter than I liked - the people at the NRA range packed up their stuff and left, because it was rattling the stall walls, and it was shooting a fairly sizeable fireball from the muzzle.
I felt comfortable with the 4.6 - not as hot, but the accuracy wasn't the greatest in my 1911A1 either.
When I hit 4.4, the group was tight enough for me, and the seat of the pants chrony told me it "felt right". The group size was around 1" for a five shot string, at 10 yards, and I wasn't trying for accuracy, just testing the function and fit of my first .45 Auto rounds.
The 4.2 grains cycled the slide, and I had one FTE, where the case stovepiped in the ejection port.
I then loaded 50 of them out to 4.3-4.4 grains (I was trying hard to get 4.3 consistently, but the Uni Powder Measure just wouldn't do it), and thats what I have been using for the last 3 weeks, loading about 500 rounds.
Hope the info helps.
-tc
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