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I bought these Berry's plated .308", 150 gr. FN bullets for economy range loads in my 336 Marlin a couple years ago.
Never really got a load that I liked back then. The ones I downloaded significantly gave decent groups but had a tremendous drop at 100 yds and I don't want to adjust my sights every time I shoot this "plinker load". The ones that I loaded up to Jacketed velocities gave crappy groups and I speculated at the time that they were spinning off the copper clad.
I got a deal on bulk Winchester 150 gr. jacketed FNs and put the Berry's on the shelf.
So last night I revisited the topic.
Modern Reloading II has some seperate tables for downloading the most popular rifle cartridges and though the powders tabulated in these tables are limited, they do list H335.
So I pulled 25 gr. as a H335 charge that should push a 150 gr. lead bullet to 1,800 fps (which is higher than the 1,700 the Berry's flier says you can push their rifle bullets).
I always FL size and crimp for my tube magazine rifles and am using the LFCD that comes with the .30-30 die set.
My understanding is that the rifle LFCD makes neither a roll or taper crimp, but rather a "collet crimp" (my term).
Though I tried not to crimp them to heavy, the swaged core in the Berry's is so darn soft that I could tell I was deforming the bullet.
I pulled one and here it is.
The "dent" does not break the copper cladding.
Any thoughts?
Never really got a load that I liked back then. The ones I downloaded significantly gave decent groups but had a tremendous drop at 100 yds and I don't want to adjust my sights every time I shoot this "plinker load". The ones that I loaded up to Jacketed velocities gave crappy groups and I speculated at the time that they were spinning off the copper clad.
I got a deal on bulk Winchester 150 gr. jacketed FNs and put the Berry's on the shelf.
So last night I revisited the topic.
Modern Reloading II has some seperate tables for downloading the most popular rifle cartridges and though the powders tabulated in these tables are limited, they do list H335.
So I pulled 25 gr. as a H335 charge that should push a 150 gr. lead bullet to 1,800 fps (which is higher than the 1,700 the Berry's flier says you can push their rifle bullets).
I always FL size and crimp for my tube magazine rifles and am using the LFCD that comes with the .30-30 die set.
My understanding is that the rifle LFCD makes neither a roll or taper crimp, but rather a "collet crimp" (my term).
Though I tried not to crimp them to heavy, the swaged core in the Berry's is so darn soft that I could tell I was deforming the bullet.
I pulled one and here it is.
The "dent" does not break the copper cladding.
Any thoughts?