Please Donate to Adopt A Sniper! Help the Troops!

[Connecticut Yankee]

Please donate to “Adopt a Sniper†at http://www.adoptasniper.org/. They are gathering and sending sniper needed items as well as general items for snipers on the front lines. You can read all the details and have your questions answered by going to their link. What you need to do is DONATE. THEY NEED WHATEVER YOU CAN GIVE! Both Adopt a Sniper and Snipersonline are 501 c 3 non-profit organizations and all donations are TAX DEDUCTIBLE!

I spoke to Brian Sain and Keith Deneys. If you have any questions just call either one of them. Based on this conversation what they most need are the following:

Money for POSTAGE: Snipersonline, the parent organization, has material that is piling up because people send items but don’t make cash donations.

Big ticket items that are really needed are

Leupold Golden Ring Mark 4 12-40x60 mm Tactical Spotting Scopes Part No. 53756 which has the Mildot this is what they need.

Leica 1200 Laser (BEST) also Bushnell, Nikon Rangefinders that work out to at least 1000 yards

Leupold Tactical Mil-Spec Scopes e.g. Mark 4 MRT 3-9x M1 with Mildot Reticle Part No. 57070

N.B. My friend who is a dealer is selling these to me at his cost, no profit, since they are being donated. Ask your regular dealer if he will do the same.

Other items that are in demand are:

Blackhawk STRIKE Commando Recon Chest harnesses: they allow the sniper to wear the strike plates out of his issue body armor but remain unhindered for shooting his rifle.

Kestrel wind meters

Safariland 6004 drop leg holsters.

Their full list is at: http://www.adoptasniper.org/items.html.

SUGGESTIONS:

1) Take the Mil Spec Leupold or any Mil Spec scope off of ONE of your rifles and donate it to them. Make do with a Tasco for the duration.

2) Contact your local Police Department and see if they have any old items that they would be willing to donate. They can talk to Brian, he is a sworn LEO in Texas, so it would be an officer to officer or department to department donation.

3) Clean out you basement of the GOOD STUFF. Do you have any extra Randalls lying around? An extra Kershaw multi-tool? Decent quality spotting scope or binoculars that you haven’t used in ages? An extra lens pen or two? Pin-on compass? An old Harris bipod? Please don’t send them the garage sale items, they just have to throw it away after you spend money on postage. But we all have more than we need since the guys in the field don’t have everything they need!

4) Print out the flyer from their website and post it at your dealers and your range.

 

[Connecticut Yankee]

Please donate to “Adopt a Sniper†at http://www.adoptasniper.org/. They are gathering and sending sniper needed items as well as general items for snipers on the front lines. You can read all the details and have your questions answered by going to their link. What you need to do is DONATE. THEY NEED WHATEVER YOU CAN GIVE! Both Adopt a Sniper and Snipersonline are 501 c 3 non-profit organizations and all donations are TAX DEDUCTIBLE!

I spoke to Brian Sain and Keith Deneys. If you have any questions just call either one of them. Based on this conversation what they most need are the following:

Money for POSTAGE: Snipersonline, the parent organization, has material that is piling up because people send items but don’t make cash donations.

Big ticket items that are really needed are

Leupold Golden Ring Mark 4 12-40x60 mm Tactical Spotting Scopes Part No. 53756 which has the Mildot this is what they need.

Leica 1200 Laser (BEST) also Bushnell, Nikon Rangefinders that work out to at least 1000 yards

Leupold Tactical Mil-Spec Scopes e.g. Mark 4 MRT 3-9x M1 with Mildot Reticle Part No. 57070

N.B. My friend who is a dealer is selling these to me at his cost, no profit, since they are being donated. Ask your regular dealer if he will do the same.

Other items that are in demand are:

Blackhawk STRIKE Commando Recon Chest harnesses: they allow the sniper to wear the strike plates out of his issue body armor but remain unhindered for shooting his rifle.

Kestrel wind meters

Safariland 6004 drop leg holsters.

Their full list is at: http://www.adoptasniper.org/items.html.

SUGGESTIONS:

1) Take the Mil Spec Leupold or any Mil Spec scope off of ONE of your rifles and donate it to them. Make do with a Tasco for the duration.

2) Contact your local Police Department and see if they have any old items that they would be willing to donate. They can talk to Brian, he is a sworn LEO in Texas, so it would be an officer to officer or department to department donation.

3) Clean out you basement of the GOOD STUFF. Do you have any extra Randalls lying around? An extra Kershaw multi-tool? Decent quality spotting scope or binoculars that you haven’t used in ages? An extra lens pen or two? Pin-on compass? An old Harris bipod? Please don’t send them the garage sale items, they just have to throw it away after you spend money on postage. But we all have more than we need since the guys in the field don’t have everything they need!

4) Print out the flyer from their website and post it at your dealers and your range.

 

[ID_shooting]

 

[DragonFire]

I'm sorry but I'm skeptical about this. I surf'd the adoptasniper web site and find it hard to accept.

I just can't believe that our troops would be better off with with donated equipment than they would be with what the services assign to them. I also don't believe that the military will allow the troops to carry anything they want.

And while I know we have snipers "working" in Iraq and Afganistan, I really hope we don't have them working all over the world.

I'm not saying that this is a scam, but at best it's some misguided good intentions.

 

[SapperLeader]

Umm, Im confused, Im familiar with regular line troops wanting to supplement thier gear with better stuff, but the military snipers and designated marksman Ive met all had thier gear issued to them and were happy with it except for ammo in some cases. Is this legit? a

 

[why_me]

Called

Called Port Arthur police department. The web site and program was started by Det. Brian Sain. He is on vacation. Dispatcher told me it was a legitamate charity.

 

[Connecticut Yankee]

The Group Seems Legit to Me

Okay, don't believe me, again, check the website. They got written up in the NY Times, Stars and Stripes, Reuters and were featured on Fox News. I don't trust the media any more than you do but I find it hard to believe that all four organizations could be fooled by a conspiracy to scam us out of our money. They have 501 3 c standing, you can ask for their IRS papers.

http://www.adoptasniper.org/pdfs/NY-Times-Article-Dec2104.pdf is from their website it has a picture of Brian from the NY Times, this article is where I found out abot this group. You can call Brian in Port Arthur, Texas, his pager is on the website.

 

[Connecticut Yankee]

Sapper Leader: Please see FAQs

My understanding from Brian and the website is that these guys were good shots who are pressed into duty as snipers without the official MOS of "Sniper" so they can't get the equipment through channels since they aren't on the TOE. Please see the recent comments and my reply in General Gun Discussion. Brian is currently on vacation per another poster there but he noted that Dispatcher confirmed orginization.

 

[Connecticut Yankee]

Sapper Leader: Please see FAQs

My understanding from Brian and the website is that these guys were good shots who are pressed into duty as snipers without the official MOS of "Sniper" so they can't get the equipment through channels since they aren't on the TOE. Please see the recent comments and my reply in General Gun Discussion. Brian is currently on vacation per another poster there but he noted that Dispatcher confirmed orginization.

 

[CannibalCrowley]

How many of these threads are you going to spam the board with?

 

[Waitone]

I gotta ask, "Why the need?"

What ain't happenin' that should be happin'? How come basic tools of the trade aren't available in sufficient quantities to justify a canned goods pounding.

Something just don't add up.

 

[Connecticut Yankee]

Waitone - Appreciate Question Am Giving Best Answer I Can

I was never in the service so I don't know how it works. From the FAQs on the website and my discussion with Brian these are guys who are doing sniper work without being MOS sniper or being on the TOE so they can't get equipment through normal channels. I suggest you call Brian when he is back from vacation or call one of the other three guys listed on the website and ask them.

 

[hipeflip]

Add me in as one of the skeptical. This is from the website:

Q: How do I know that the snipers have received the items I sent?

A: The entire organization is based on a certain amount of trust. The snipers trust that we will not give up their identities. The people donating trust that we will actually spend their money on what we claim and that we will actually send the gear donations to the troops and not steal it or re-sale it. The snipers will usually send a quick email of thanks to Brian when they get access to a computer. We will try and post these to the site. However, their units, names, etc. will always be deleted. We will pass on a donation rather than give out the sniper's address.

 

[Khornet]

Checked out their bonafides

a while back and they seemed good, so I sent 'em four of those Blackhawk flak vests.

 

[ID_shooting]

Let me know if this sca.. er, I mean request works. I think I may need to suppliment my sniping collection.

 

[Gewehr98]

Something doesn't pass the sniff test, here.

As somebody who's been a GI for nigh unto 20 years, I'd really like to see the Table of Allowances/Table of Equipment for these "impromptu snipers". Circumventing both the chain of command and the logistics train by sending non-GSA-approved stuff direct to the end-user is bad juju.

I'll be setting up a website of my own later, and use a Wisconsin address. I could use a Leupold scope or two.

 

[Preacherman]

Duplicate threads merged.

 

[artherd]

Leupold Tactical Mil-Spec Scopes e.g. Mark 4 MRT 3-9x M1 with Mildot Reticle Part No. 57070.

I am calling this out as a scam. No f-ing WAY do they need bloody consumer-market SPR scopes, used ones at that.

What, you expect me to belive we are fielding sniper teams with rack grade A2s with iron sights? If they're GETTING SPRs, then they will be issued the scope too.


Maybe this dispatcher lady has been fooled too, maybe even your LEO buddies. Somebody somewhere is pocketing this stuff, or worse.

 

[Connecticut Yankee]

Am Replying to All Questions Above

1. I was never in the service and I have no knowledge of the intracacies of assignments and equipment. If this endeavor seems to be illegitimate to you then either don't donate or contact the people running the program and ask them your questions.

2. I have nothing to do with this group other than that I am donating to them. I was simply trying to spread the word so that others who concurred could help if they wanted to. If you want to help but don't want to donate to this group then do a google search, you'll find the USO, Soldier's Angels, and a half dozen other groups all of whom are asking for donations for our troops.

3. Thank you for combining duplicate posts didn't realize not allowed won't do again.

 

[Jamie B]

Yup...smells of spam here.

 

[ScorpioVI]

Looks legit to me. I donated money and bought a challenge coin.

 

[rock jock]

I have never met Brian Sain personally, but he is well known among shooting circles locally. I do know that he has been in LE for some time and is currently on the PA SWAT team. A colleague whom I have shot with for years and trust implicitly knows Brian pretty well and has vouched for him. I don't think Brian would jeaprodize his reputation and career to run a scam. Furthermore, I have seen similar stories as those Brian relates on his website about some troops not being completlely outfitted for specific tasks (in this case, sniper duty) in news print and on other shooting sites. I believe the organization is completely legit and even donated a Leica 1200 sent from Bear Basin this month.

 

[Valkman]

I think it's legit, and have given money a couple of times. Before you write it off do some checking! I hope none of the ones calling BS are turning around and giving money to the Red Cross or United Way.

 

[jaxfl]

I can not buy this!!!

I spent 20 years in the military and had numerious jobs that I was not MOS trained or qualified in, but never, never, never need to furnish my own equipment to do the job. I spent several tours in Nam (1968-1971) and never bought a thing as a door gunner, recon, or weapons maintenance spec. If the units they are in are not TOE qualified to be doing that sniper job, then why are they doing it??? If they get killed or shot up there could be action taken againest them (UCMJ). If they are required to do sniper work then the commander for that unit and the supply system can get them the weapons, scopes, bullets, rags, uniforms, food and whatever they need. Also the use of non-military issued combat gear can result in again UCMJ action of the personnel. You cannot make me believe this is not a scam.

 

[rock jock]

I spent 20 years in the military and had numerious jobs that I was not MOS trained or qualified in, but never, never, never need to furnish my own equipment to do the job. I spent several tours in Nam (1968-1971) and never bought a thing as a door gunner, recon, or weapons maintenance spec. If the units they are in are not TOE qualified to be doing that sniper job, then why are they doing it??? If they get killed or shot up there could be action taken againest them (UCMJ). If they are required to do sniper work then the commander for that unit and the supply system can get them the weapons, scopes, bullets, rags, uniforms, food and whatever they need. Also the use of non-military issued combat gear can result in again UCMJ action of the personnel. You cannot make me believe this is not a scam.

jax,

First, you either have not taken the time to read through the site or did not pay attention to the information provided. Nowhere does it say that the equipment Adopt-A-Sniper is sending to our troops is absolutely necessary for their task. Are laser rangerfinders critical for sniping? No. But they do make the job easier and the operator more effective. Is an EoTech or Aimpoint critical for CQB operations. Obviously not, since many of our troops don't have them. But having them lets the shooter acquire targets faster and with greater accuracy. The equipment any Marine or soldier needs to be a sniper is already available to them, i.e., a rifle and a brain. With those, he can be a good sniper. The extras that Adopt-A-Sniper is sending can make them a better sniper.

Second, you need to go no further than THR to find stories from dads, uncles, and friends who are using their own money to buy their sons, nephews, or buddies an Aimpoint, or a factory Beretta M9 magazine, or one of many other items that will not be issued to make them a more effective weapon. There was a story on THR only a few weeks ago about a dad who bought his son an ACOG which later deflected a round meant for his son's head.

Third, I'll try to be as civil as I can about this, but basically, unless you have information that lends credence to your accusations, SHUT THE **** UP!