Please hit this poll... For the Children... Really.

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Please help my kids and other kids by hitting this poll and leaving a CIVIL comment if you want to.

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Ernie Harpster and Jim Harbison are both good guys, Both Master shooters who put a lot of time into teaching kids how to shoot and compete.

STATE COLLEGE — A local BB gun club is seeking an exception from the State College Area School District’s weapons policy to hold a state championship at Mount Nittany Middle School.

The idea alone has already divided the school board, with some members saying they are worried about sending mixed messages to kids about bringing BB guns to school.

“We have had expulsions that have involved this policy,” said Lou Ann Evans, one of three board members who voted Monday against putting the proposal on the agenda for the next meeting.

Ernest Harpster, leader of the Tussey Mountain Junior Rifle Club, and James Harbison, assistant leader, said the March 22 competition is a chance to teach kids the importance of gun safety.

Under the proposal, about 80 to 120 junior rifle members from across the state would gather at the school’s gymnasium to practice shooting targets in a supervised setting.

Harpster said the cafeteria is needed to provide lunch, and classrooms are used for scorekeeping and administering a written test.

The competition will be safer than other sports the district offers, he said.

“Every motion of that BB gun is controlled. You are never going to have to face a speeding baseball coming at your head 90 miles per hour,” Harpster said. “We really think our sport is safe.”

The school district’s weapon policy states that “weapons and replicas of weapons” are prohibited from “any school district building.” Students who bring them to school would face expulsion for at least a year.

“If we read the policy, it’s going to tell us the answer to your request is no,” board President Rick Madore said. But the board has the authority to make an exception, he added.

And BB gun championships have been held at schools before. Penns Valley Area High School, in fact, has hosted such contests in recent years.

As a taxpayer of 47 years, Harpster said, he wanted to hold the competition in State College this year in hopes that it would also shed some positive light on the sport.

“There are a lot of negative things about shooting in this area and a lot of good comes out of this (event),” he said. “If they don’t approve it, we will probably have to go back to Penns Valley.”

Board member Chris Small asked Harpster to submit a written letter from Penns Valley administrators indicating how the event has been held there in the past.

The board voted 6-3 to add the proposal to the agenda for the Jan. 28 meeting. Dissenting members were Evans, Gowen Roper and David Hutchinson.
 
It's better to teach them about behaving responsibly, with good adult role models, than to make the topic taboo and encourage their curiosity, and perhaps reckless bahavior and unintended consequences....

Oh, sorry. Are we talking about guns or sex education?
 
Thanks all! I think the poll is solidly in our favor. The new school board might be a little bit more open-minded than the last one. They voted most of the last one out because they were elitists and didn't listen to the people's wishes on whether to build new or renovate the high school. BTW, this is not my school district, but my kids shoot in this club and I help out with local matches and shoot high power with Ernie and Jim. Jim's son is in the USAMU and is the National Smallbore Prone Champion.
 
Did my civic duty and voted yes. I remember in high school being in ROTC and having a 22lr range on campus. And we drilled with working M1's for our parades. Nobody went crazy and shot up the school.
 
While I definitely advocate shooting competitions in schools, I can't say this would be fair to the previous students that got expelled/suspended for previous 'infractions'.

Think about it. Kids are getting suspended/expelled for simply DRAWING a gun on paper. Then comes along a club with good intentions, hoping to actually shoot in the gymnasium. There will be an outcry of "UNFAIR!" from a few parents.

with some members saying they are worried about sending mixed messages to kids

“We have had expulsions that have involved this policy,”

The current policy is already entrenched. If they didn't have those rules, heck yes I'd be all for it.

Just my .02

EDIT: Now I don't see the problem in having the competition off school grounds.
 
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I shot several BB gun matches in school gyms in the 1980's. I'm not sure what the big deal is... ;)
 
246 in favor, 11 against, 1 undecided.

I can see the dilemma if they've expelled people for bb gun stuff, but I still thing there oughta be a marksmanship class mandatory to highschool graduation.
 
This isn't the same as bringing a bb gun into school during a normal day. The contest is a special event. It should be allowed.

If a kid rode his motor cycle down the hallway I would say he would get suspended but if he brought it in to demonstrate bike saftey during a organized school event it would be ok. Same thing.
 
Voted on the poll and added a comment about the 3 dissenting school board members.
The battle goes on every day across the USA.
Unbelievable to this child of the '50's.
Packman,is marksmanship mentioned in the 2nd Amendment?Please.
A Jim Beam to end the day will help.Maybe.
 
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Do you think BB gun club should be allowed to hold a championship event at Mount Nittany Middle School?

Yes, why not?
No way
I'm not sure



Yes, why not?
269

96%
No way
11

4%
I'm not sure
1

0%
Total Votes: 281
Your vote has been counted, thank you for voting.
 
Done
Yes, why not?
305
96%
No way
11
3%
I'm not sure
1
0%
Total Votes: 317
 
I work for a company out of State College, and I was really surprised to see this nonsense. Next thing you know, someone will want JoePa to run a spread offense.
 
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