I have finnally decidedd am going to customize my first gun. I am going to be purchaseing and wetherby vangaurd. I would like help with choosing my parts to put on itn i am only 14 and ive never customized a rifle. I have changed stocks and little stuff but not like changin a barrel, trigger job, swoping pins, ect.. so if u have ecpierence please help me out
please read if you have expierence customizing a rifle
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remyboy13, you have a few threads going that all seem to be inter-related. You need to choose a direction.
Still, what do you mean by customizing? As far as I know, there isn't too much out there for a Weatherby Vanguard. What are you trying to get it to do that it won't do already? Customizing just for the sake of customizing is a good way to waste money.
Still, what do you mean by customizing? As far as I know, there isn't too much out there for a Weatherby Vanguard. What are you trying to get it to do that it won't do already? Customizing just for the sake of customizing is a good way to waste money.
A stock, barrel, new bolt, trigger job, and a custom paint job from a guy hear in missouri. I wana make it shoot to 500 yards like its a piece of cake. Also it would be nice if i could get a new bolt handle, maby a muzzle break, a nice piece of glass, all that little stuff. And i just wana learn more about rifles and how there built. I think it would be fun to do.
why would you buy an entire new rifle and throw away everything but the action (which is not all that great of an action), and then buy all new stuff to put on it?
why not just buy a stripped action in the first place? or better yet, like we've told you 10 times already... use one you already have
why not just buy a stripped action in the first place? or better yet, like we've told you 10 times already... use one you already have
The Weatherby may not be the best platform simply because the available equipment may be limited. This is not the most popular rifle in the world and I have never seen one customized. The Remington 700 is a popular basis for building long range rifles.
Are you talking about having the gunsmithing work done or doing it yourself? Doing yourself requires tools and experience in such things.
PS: (This is the teacher speaking, now.) Not trying to be too picky but given the number of misspelled words in your posts you might want to consider making sure you don't neglect you schoolwork in pursuing your hobby.
Are you talking about having the gunsmithing work done or doing it yourself? Doing yourself requires tools and experience in such things.
PS: (This is the teacher speaking, now.) Not trying to be too picky but given the number of misspelled words in your posts you might want to consider making sure you don't neglect you schoolwork in pursuing your hobby.
Craigman
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just get a heavy barrel Howa for less, and it should do all you have described in previous threads. $4-500 plus scope should be sub MOA w/handloads or match ammo
MtnCreek
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IMO, there's 3 reasons why people customize a bolt gun:
1) They want something that is not otherwise available (does not sound like your situation).
2) They have worn out their current rifle and it needs rebuilding (does not sound like your situation).
3) They (the shooter) are more accurate than their current rifle. (does not sound like your situation).
In another one of your threads, Taliv suggested purchasing AMMO with the funds that you have available. That is probably the best advice that you will receive if your goal is shooting >/= 500 yds.
1) They want something that is not otherwise available (does not sound like your situation).
2) They have worn out their current rifle and it needs rebuilding (does not sound like your situation).
3) They (the shooter) are more accurate than their current rifle. (does not sound like your situation).
In another one of your threads, Taliv suggested purchasing AMMO with the funds that you have available. That is probably the best advice that you will receive if your goal is shooting >/= 500 yds.
Sam1911
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Wait. You haven't got the rifle (or even A rifle) and you've decided you're going to customize it? Why in heaven's name would you do that?
Buy rifle. Buy optic, probably worth 1-3x what the rifle is worth. Buy a lot of ammo. Shoot a lot of ammo. (Again, probably spend 1-3x the cost of the rifle and scope on ammo.) Find out what the rifle can do, and how much YOU are holding that rifle back. Find someone qualified to teach you how to not be quite so much the weakest link in the chain.
Once you've got the rounds downrange to know a bit about yourself and the gun, then you may have a halfway decent understanding of what modifications will help the gun, which will help you, and which are worthless fluff that just takes away from your shooting and training budget.
What made you choose that rifle? If you know enough about it to choose it, what is WRONG with it that needs fixing? And, if those things are wrong, why not buy something that suits your tastes a little better? And...why would you pick a gun that is not supported widely enough to give you many customization options, if you've got to go all "Orange County Choppers" on it?
Get a rifle. Shoot the rifle. After as little as a few thousand rounds downrange, you'll begin to have an understanding of which parts might be holding back the rifle's performance, or yours.
courtgreene
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I have no problem whatsoever with new shooters asking questions, and some of them have the wisdom to hear, consider, and act upon the advice those questions generate. An example would be (I think I remember it correctly) JDMorris (correct me if I am wrong) who, at a similar age had a lot of questions. When he began asking questions and had no clue about that which he was speaking, he was a tad cocky and argumentative. As he kept asking questions and started to realize the wisdom here, he grew immensely as a shooter (according to pictures he posted) and forum member (once he stopped recommending that everyone get a howa, and started posting thoughtful suggestions). I would advise that you take that route. I have read your other threads because I love customizing rifles, and it seems every time you start a thread it is in some new direction that shows no sense of direction other than an attempt to ignore any advice given. It's your money, do what you want, but why ask if you don't care about the answers given?
So, here's my answer to all of your threads, synthesized into one. You have seven hundreds, as you say, so use those. If you are like me and you can't leave things alone, then that's fine because making a rifle "yours" is fun, and for some of us, stock factory rifles are just boring. If that is the case, given your age and the likelihood that you don't have expensive and job specific tools lying around, then go savage because they are the easiest bolt rifles to re-barrel. A stevens 200 is a great action, and it is the savage 110/10 that has been the basis for a BUNCH of super-accurate rifles. Finally, given your age (again) and its accompanying fearlessness that boarders on insanity (I work with teenagers for a living, I know), Don't do a trigger job, or at least don't do it yourself.
No matter what you do, those who commented before me are right, nothing but shooting makes a shooter, and sometimes not even that. Perfect practice makes perfect.
There's my (long, sorry) answer. You can take it (doubtful) or leave it (probable).
So, here's my answer to all of your threads, synthesized into one. You have seven hundreds, as you say, so use those. If you are like me and you can't leave things alone, then that's fine because making a rifle "yours" is fun, and for some of us, stock factory rifles are just boring. If that is the case, given your age and the likelihood that you don't have expensive and job specific tools lying around, then go savage because they are the easiest bolt rifles to re-barrel. A stevens 200 is a great action, and it is the savage 110/10 that has been the basis for a BUNCH of super-accurate rifles. Finally, given your age (again) and its accompanying fearlessness that boarders on insanity (I work with teenagers for a living, I know), Don't do a trigger job, or at least don't do it yourself.
No matter what you do, those who commented before me are right, nothing but shooting makes a shooter, and sometimes not even that. Perfect practice makes perfect.
There's my (long, sorry) answer. You can take it (doubtful) or leave it (probable).
kickbacked
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buy a mosin nagant, customize it all you want. you can make it shoot better, look better, and be something you made yourself for cheap
I have a Rem700 that I modded the stock.
I have a Marlin 60 that I modded the stock.
I have a Weatherby Vanguard that is as recieved. No need to change anything for it's intended purpose. Maybe one day, but not today.
You have some better options available to you.
1 - If it ain't broke don't go fixing it.
2 - buy a different platform with more readily available products
3 - Handloading has a pretty good ROI.
4 - spend the money on ammo as someone else stated.
5- spend the money on a good .22LR. Kimber 82G from CMP for $400 is the deal of a lifetime.
6 - Used rifes can be a great deal.
7 - get a good air rifle.
Worry about becoming a better marksman. 500yds ain't that far. I have seen plenty of stock rifles do better than the triggerman in that distance.
Saxon Pig - My spelling is OK - But I still use SpallChunk just to be safe. Good point about not neglecting studies. Rifle shooters need disposable income and maybe even the ablitity to do math in their heads.
I have a Marlin 60 that I modded the stock.
I have a Weatherby Vanguard that is as recieved. No need to change anything for it's intended purpose. Maybe one day, but not today.
You have some better options available to you.
1 - If it ain't broke don't go fixing it.
2 - buy a different platform with more readily available products
3 - Handloading has a pretty good ROI.
4 - spend the money on ammo as someone else stated.
5- spend the money on a good .22LR. Kimber 82G from CMP for $400 is the deal of a lifetime.
6 - Used rifes can be a great deal.
7 - get a good air rifle.
Worry about becoming a better marksman. 500yds ain't that far. I have seen plenty of stock rifles do better than the triggerman in that distance.
Saxon Pig - My spelling is OK - But I still use SpallChunk just to be safe. Good point about not neglecting studies. Rifle shooters need disposable income and maybe even the ablitity to do math in their heads.
M91/30
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I don't believe you can own a gun at 14(correct me if im wrong) Just use the ones available to you.
You should just train yourself, you can always get better.
If your shooting at 300yds just shoot until you tighten up your groups.
Shoot until you can get 3in groups or smaller regardless of position.(standing, sitting, etc)
That way when you can own one your a good shooter, till then research guns and shoot.
Also, shoot more .22's
Also I wouldn't recommend you keep making repeat threads, look into forum edicacy, also read the rules of THR.
You should just train yourself, you can always get better.
If your shooting at 300yds just shoot until you tighten up your groups.
Shoot until you can get 3in groups or smaller regardless of position.(standing, sitting, etc)
That way when you can own one your a good shooter, till then research guns and shoot.
Also, shoot more .22's
Also I wouldn't recommend you keep making repeat threads, look into forum edicacy, also read the rules of THR.
Cal-gun Fan
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The gun wouldn't be legally his, kind of like the ones that I have saved up for. It would legally be owned by his parent.
Get R Done Guns
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You have stated 4 different guns you would like. Pick one and let us help you. Let one thread go into the direction YOU want it to instead of posting a ton of them.
I have customized two rifles, both back in the 60s. One was a 98 Mauser customized at a 243 Win varmit rifle and the other a 95 Mauser customized as a 308 Manlicher carbine. I would not customize a rifle today. The market is too full of good rifles. As far as Mosin Nagants go, I have three, equipped with scout scopes that will shoot one inch or better in their stock configuration. Why bother......Military surplus rifles today usually are more valuable in their original configuration than when customized, usually by bubba. The pawn shops around here are full of such customizing.....chris3
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