**Please recommend a good bullet proof vest**

[nonbox]

Please recommend a good affordable bullet proof vest. Please post urls.

 

[SquirrelNuts]

I would say Second Chance would be your best bet. They offer many things from affordable, to not so affordable. It all depends on how much protection and comfort you want, and how much you are willing to spend. Most consider the Ultima to be a great vest.

http://www.secondchance.com/

-SquirrelNuts

 

[Matt G]

For the last 3 years, the Ultima has been the best thing going. It's far thinner and far more flexible than the other vests. I can't stress enough how important it is to get the lightest, thinnest, most breathable vest you possibly can.

The DOJ and NIJ stats on police officers killed are fascinating, when it comes to vests. In the last 15 years or so, NO ONE was killed from a pistol bullet penetrating a vest. Only a very few rifles have been employed to kill cops by penetrating their vests. (None of the rifle-resistant vests are concealable, BTW) The vests that save lives, week in and week out, are the vests that offer the minimum protection of a Level IIA, because those are the vests that people wear.

Richard Davis, president of Second Chance and founder of the whole concealable soft body armor movement, says "Sure, we'll sell you a super-high-rated vest that will stop anything you want. We use more Kevlar in it, and we'll make more money on each one we sell. But we'd rather sell you a light, comfortable Level II or IIA vest that will save your life, because you'll wear it.

BTW, R. Davis is a big proponent of the RKBA, and is a major gun enthusiast.

 

[Thumper]

You'll recognize Richard...he'll be the one touching off a .44 into his own midsection.

That cat's nutty...

 

[Steve Smith]

Here's a quesiton...assuming that vests are legal for civilians in my state (I'd check first) how do I go about purchasing from Second Chance? Through a cop shop or directly from SC? Also, what's the average price of an Ultra?

 

[pax]

Moved to the appropriate forum.

pax

 

[natedog]

In my opinion, body armor is like shooting glasses: it's not something you want to cheap on, cause you only get one pair of eyes and you only get one life.

 

[Mute]

Go to the Galls website. They have a pretty wide selection (Second Chance, Safariland...etc.) to fit about any budget.

 

[SquirrelNuts]

I have an old Second Chance video with Richard in it. That guy has a few screws loose. Half the video is very odd humor, and the other half is very serious. Overall, very entertaining!

-SquirrelNuts

 

[ACP230]

I went to the old Second Chance Bowlng Pin Shoot for 10 years, and have stopped in to see Richard a couple of times since.
I've seen him do two vest demonstrations and if I was buying a vest it would be Second Chance.

I also met several cops who wore Second Chance and survived shootings because they did. Nice guys, and very fond of Mr. Richard Davis.

Shooting saves get the most play in the press but SC vests have also saved a lot of cops who were in auto wrecks.

 

[AK103K]

I have an old Second Chance video with Richard in it. That guy has a few screws loose. Half the video is very odd humor, and the other half is very serious. Overall, very entertaining!

I have that video, its a trip, isnt it? Davis is a whack job. I got to meet him at the Knob Creek shoot back in the late 80's. He was walking around with a camo vest on with a for sale sign on it carrying a suppressed MAC.

If your interested in the tape, drop them an email. My buddy had a copy that I had first seen years ago and someone else mentioned it here on the board awhile back. I emailed them asking if it was still available and they asked for my address and sent me one for free. Its an 8 hour tape with all sorts of stuff on it, including the 8mm film of him shooting himself for the first time, plus many others. Worth paying for, but even better for free.

 

[rebbryan]

just for fun, could you walk around in the rifle round stopping hard armor if you really wanted to?

i'm pretty sure body armor is legal everywhere

 

[Hkmp5sd]

assuming that vests are legal for civilians in my state

You mean it is illegal for civilians to possess body armor in some locations? Amazing. I wonder what the rational is for that ban.

 

[SquirrelNuts]

I think it is illegal for felons to purchase body armor in PRK.

-SquirrelNuts

 

[Matt G]

If your interested in the tape, drop them an email. My buddy had a copy that I had first seen years ago and someone else mentioned it here on the board awhile back. I emailed them asking if it was still available and they asked for my address and sent me one for free. Its an 8 hour tape with all sorts of stuff on it, including the 8mm film of him shooting himself for the first time, plus many others. Worth paying for, but even better for free.

Yeah, that's how I got mine; a few months ago, I emailed a note of suggestion to Richard at 2nd Chance, and he said, "One definition of a genius is someone who agrees with you," and went on to show how he'd come up with the same idea in the '80s, and tried to market it since 1990, with very few sales. (Idea was for a bulletproof belt rig, to add a few extra inches of protection everytime you strap your rig on). He then sent me his video and all kind of interesting paperwork for free. Paperwork included a short case history of each of the more than 850 saves 2nd Chance vests have made.

 

[incursion]

I would not get a zylon based vest. According to the Mad Dog forums, they degrade too quickly in high heat and moisture environments. Stick with an all aramid vest.