Please suggest a shotgun for dove/quail.

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I plan to do some heavy duty dove/quail hunting this season. I dont think I have the right chokes to do it. My first shotgun is a Browning Belgium auto 5 with a full choke and the other is a Laurona over/under 12ga, one barrel has 1 * and the other has three ***. This is modified full right????


As far as my Browning (full), thats for duck mostly as far as I know. Should I learn to use the over/under */*** for dove/quail or what do you recommend? I have seen some models around $500 with iterchangeable chokes (which mine don't have) or what is a good used model to buy?

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I suggest that you use the *** for quail and dove. I prefer **** for quail and *** for dove.

I would keep the * full choke for waterfowl, even though it could be useful on high flying doves. My dad had a slogan that I remember and he's been dead 60 years. When in doubt use Modified (that is ***).

If I were to settle down to one choke it would be modified. However, I have had my shotguns fitted with variable chole devices (Polychokes). They are not available for doubles. They are fitted at the Polychoke factory, unless you have a screw-in tube barrel. Polychoke makes a screw-in variable that is real neat. I had my barrels cut down to 24" and had these devices put on them. Costs around $90.00, but well worth it. No fooling around with screw-ins. Just dial in the choke you need from extra-full to none at all. I love them.

I hope this has been of assistance to you.
 
I wouldnt like to part with my auto 5, its a great gun. The Polychoke option seems really good without spending much money. Would that devalue my my collectors auto 5?
 
Since you've already got the 12-gauge covered, I'd suggest a 28-gauge double (SxS or O/U, your preference) for dove and quail. They're all fairly expensive, but classic gamers for small bird hunting. My $0.02.
 
My favorite quail/dove gun is an Ithaca 37 featherlight in 20 ga., fixed modified choke. I own a bunch of shotguns, but when it is dove or quail time I always reach for the gun I've been using since about the age of 8 (only thing changed since then was the youth stock.) If you shop around it won't break the bank either.

That's my personal choice, but I would say that any 20 gauge that fits you well and shoots something close to a modified pattern would be a great choice.
 
I'm going to assume that quail hunting in your area is a lot like it is in mine. AFAIK that is the case.

Quail is a short-window bird. They live in rough, brushy, rocky hill country. They pop up fast, and they fly away fast, and they drop behind cover fast. You have 2 seconds to shoot quail here. When you hear 'em, you shoulder, when you see 'em, you fire. Fast point-shooting is the name of the game 75% of the time. You often don't get a second shot, and you seldom get a third.

Quail here is not some pleasant stroll through flat country. It's challenging, fun, and delicious if you get some!

So, criterion #1: the gun must shoulder quickly, but not be so "whippy" that you overswing while moving fast. That argues for a 20.

Criterion #2: followup shots. AFAIK Arizona has a 3-round limit. This means that a semiauto offers you little or nothing over an O/U, in the conditions described. I think you're better off with IC/M so you have an open pattern followed by a tighter one as the bird flies away. You won't get to use a Full choke anyway.

28 Gauge may be nice, but 20 Gauge ammo is much cheaper and far more versatile. If you are going to load your own (I do), then you can load 3/4 oz. in 20 if you really want to. 20 Gauge guns tend to be available more readily and at a lower price on the used market. And they can still be used, loaded with #5's, for pheasant. Furthermore, some 28's are too quick and light for our quail. You're moving so fast you can overswing when you shoulder. And others are built on 20 Gauge frames anyway, so why pay extra for slightly smaller bores, when there's no other difference?

I'd say a 20 Gauge O/U for quail in our rocky high deserts, if I'm going to recommend something. Or shoot what you have, and decide for yourself before spending cash.

Doves, on the other hand. are a lot like shooting trap or skeet, but with someone else calling "pull." They sit on wires or bushes, then they up and fly by. A full-sized 12 Gauge semiauto can be nice for those, for the swing provided by a longer, heavier gun. But doves also can "jink", or change direction suddenly, rather than flying in a predictable line. A lighter gun like a 20 O/U can be good for that.

Bottom line for doves is, shoot whatever you want. Switch off for fun and challenge. They don't stay so close to the ground (usually), or fly fast and drop, like a quail. So IMO the gun is less critical. I've missed having even one shot at quail because I had a heavier 12 pump. They were gone before I had the gun up! With doves, I can't remember that happening. Some guys shoot .410's, for the challenge. It doesn't matter so much.

I'd be reluctant to buy a special gun just for doves. I did get a gun just for quail, though, a 20 Gauge 26" O/U, fixed IC/M barrels. Dove season is a good time to get proficient with your quail gun -- quail is the good meat anyway!

You CAN use a .410. But I think a 20 is a good all-around gun, and the first it makes sense to add to your collection.
 
Well, thanks all for your good info. I ended up splurging for a Browning Citori O/U superlight 12 with chokes and everything. Its slightly used and there are not many around. I think I cant go wrong with that.
 
"I wouldnt like to part with my auto 5, its a great gun. The Polychoke option seems really good without spending much money. Would that devalue my my collectors auto 5?"

DO NOT PUT A POLY CHOKE ON YOUR A-5!!!!! Few things kill the collector value on an A-5 faster than a polychoke!
 
Yep, your right. Im keeping the auto 5 as is, using my new Citori for everything and the Laurona o/u */*** for guests and friends. Problem solved. There few things money cant fix right?
 
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