Plinkerton - not for sale in Illinois - low melting point?

[DonP]

I was looking into picking up a cheap Cimarron Plinkerton for SAA target practice.

Cabela's had them advertised for $149 or so and with ammo getting cheaper again I figured, hey what the heck.

(Please, spare me the advice to buy a used Ruger Single Six. If I ever see one for under $350 or so that isn't beat to heck, I might. But they ain't out there. Moving right along ...)

Cabela's in Hoffman Estates Illinois said they do not carry them and can not transfer them in from the Indiana store. I tried to get the Indiana store to transfer one to Pelcher's in Illinois, I was told they can't and I kept hitting roadblocks.

My local family run gun store tried to order one for me with the extra .22 mag cylinder. The owner called me yesterday and told me she tried two of her suppliers and they both told her the Plinkerton is made with a cast aluminum alloy frame and does not meet "the melting point standards" for the state of Illinois.

If it was only one source my BS meter would have gone off, but this was after trying several places.

I know it's a pot metal with steel inserts, but I never heard of a melting point standard before.

Has anyone in Illinois ever run into or even heard of this before?

 

[Centaur 1]

Here you go Don, the state regs concerning "junk guns".


Illinois prohibits any federally licensed firearms dealer, manufacturer, importer, or pawnbroker from manufacturing, selling or delivering to any unlicensed person a handgun having a barrel, slide, frame or receiver which is a die casting of zinc alloy or any other non-homogeneous metal that will melt or deform at a temperature of less than 800 degrees Fahrenheit. 720 Ill. Comp. Stat. 5/24-3(A)(h). This prohibition does not apply to private/secondary sales (i.e., transfers by non-firearms dealers). Id.

In addition to the aforementioned statute regulating junk guns, the Illinois Attorney General may have the authority to regulate junk guns, as well as promulgate other firearms safety standards, pursuant to the Illinois Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act, 815 Ill. Comp. Stat. 505/1 et seq. For further details, view the report "The Illinois Attorney General's Authority to Promulgate Handgun Safety Regulations Under the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act," prepared by Legal Community Against Violence and the Firearms Law Center, in collaboration with Illinois Lawyers of Legal Community Against Violence, the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, Inc. and the MacArthur Justice Center in 2003.

For general information on the authority of state attorneys general to regulate firearm safety, see also "Targeting Safety" issued by the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence (now Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence).

 

[CraigC]

They are out there. I see them on Gunbroker all the time. I have three myself that were all $250 or less.

 

[CajunBass]

I've got two used Single-Sixs that I paid $250.00 each for this summer (which is still more than $149.00 I admit) . But I'm not in the Chicago area, so I have no idea what they go for there.

My wife used to live in Hinsdale. Her family still does. From what I understand about Illinois gun laws, one excuse to ban something is as good as another.

How about a Rough Rider?

 

[RhinoDefense]

Wisconsin has a similar law.

 

[BCCL]

Has anyone in Illinois ever run into or even heard of this before?

Yep, my local gun shop got called a few weeks ago and told to stop selling the Chiappa Arms 1911-22 for the same reason.

 

[wlewisiii]

I am curious as to why the Walther P22 can be sold in Wisconsin though. And I have seen the Chiappa in a local gun store as well though I know that the same place can't sell the EAA Windicator .38 version, only the all steel .357 version.

 

[wriggly]

But they allow plastic that melts at 500 degrees?