"Plinking" load for 9mm

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Hi

How would I go about developing a "plinking load" for 9mm?

The idea would be to make a low energy, low noise load that could be used in places where it would be safe to use a .22. They should also reliably cycle (in a stock H&K USP).

I have a stock of 124gr plated bullets, and Vihtavuori powders N320 through to N350.

Any suggestions? I was thinking to first try a light load of the fast powder (N320)...

Thanks!

T.S.
 
My experience reloading 9mm is that low-powered loads don't work well with European pistols. In my case this was a Glock 17, 26 and a Walther P-990.

Finding something safe to shoot in a .22-type environment that still cycles the slide is a tall (and maybe impossible) order. You will definitely need a reduced-power recoil-spring. Other than that, I am afraid I cannot help you, except to say good luck, and let us know if you find something suitable.
 
I think you may have impossible criteria. Any 9mm round that is loaded down to .22 levels will probably not have enough energy to cycle the slide.

That said, it is not hard to find the minimum load that will cycle the slide reliably. Look through several reloading manuals and load the minimum loads they list. Work up from there.

If you are willing to switch to cast lead bullets, you might be able to work down from there, too. Lead bullets are easier to drive through a bore than plated bullets are.

But I would not go below minimum published loads for plated bullets.
 
N320 will be the only viable choice from that selection, N310 would be even better. If you really want to approximate .22 recoil though, you WILL need a reduced-power recoil spring.
 
Wolff Springs

According to the Wolff catalog, www.gunsprings.com the standard factory rated recoil spring for the H & K, USP is 12 lbs.

They do sell a 10 lb. spring, doubtfull if thats going to help you much with light loads, though.
 
Thanks for the replies folks.

I guess I should just aim (heh heh.. "aim" :) ) for the lightest load that will cycle properly.

However I'd be interested to know if I should use light or heavy bullets, and slow or fast powder as my starting point.

I've said what I have in stock at the moment, but of course I could always take a trip to the store :)

"T.S."
 
Suggest a 151g Rainier TCJ-RN and 'medium' powder, like Alliant Power Pistol, or Vihtavuori Oy 3N37.
Or Ramshot Silhouette.
Or a 135g.
 
Accuracy and consistency should be the over-riding goal.

After loading hundreds of combinations with the 9mm seeking a minimal and accurate load, I've found that mid-weight bullets, and medium burning pistol powders work the best in 9mm.

The issue with the 9mm is that recoil is what cycles the action, so reducing recoil affects firearm reliability. Often with the 9mm, simply reducing the recoil spring strength dosen't do the job.

I've four different S&W 9's. Three are Performance Ctr. guns; a 5906PC (4"bbl), and two PPC-9's, and a "production" Super-9 with three bbls.- 9mm Para, 9x21, and .356TSW. I've also had counting a .38Super 4 "1911" 9's, and several other 9's. (CZ, Excam-BTA, Star modB, Glock-17, ect.)

I have lightened the recoil springs on the Smith 4" progressively till they no longer would cycle the action, but the minimal loads for reliable function essentially didn't change. I've also tried bullets from 90gr to 160gr. The key element was slide INERTIA. The mass of the slide is factored as is hammer spring tension, as well as recoil spring tension in designing the pistol's manufactured parameters. Lesser factors are such as the friction of the top cartridge in the magazine with a full magazine.

So, in the final analysis, I find by best loads for "plinking", and practice is essentially that of a "standard" velocity 9mm.
For the above load, I use a cast 122gr TC over 4.3gr of WSF, for about 1,100fps. This load is totally reliable and extreamly accurate, though with the cast slugs, occasionally I'll get an unexplained flyer at 50yds.

For match shooting, I use the Remington 115gr JHP over 5.3gr of WSF for 1,180fps from 4" gun, 1,220 from two 5" guns, and about 1,250 from 6" gun. This load is about the minimum that will cycle the massive slide of the 6" gun. These guns were designed by S&W to function and produce optimum accuracy with the standard 115gr loads with which they are tested with at the factory. Minimum acceptance standard is 1" at 25yds for 5 shots. All three greatly exceeded this minimum, one at under 1/2". All three PC guns easily do 1" at 25yds with both stated loads.

I suggest you use a 115-124gr bullet with perhaps N330, or N340, for 1,100 to 1,150fps. This will be the minimal recoil that will give reliable function in most 9mm handguns. Recoil is minimal as it is. Anything less, and you might as well be using a .22rf.

You didn't state what firearm you are using, but I would suggest a .22lr conversion kit if they are available. Often with service grade guns these give superior accuracy to the Center Fire setup.
 
I suggest you use a 115-124gr bullet with perhaps N330, or N340, for 1,100 to 1,150fps. This will be the minimal recoil that will give reliable function in most 9mm handguns.
I disagree. A light bullet with a medium powder at 1100+fps will produce more felt recoil than a heavy bullet with an ultra-fast powder. Specifically, N310 or Clays pushing a 147gr to about 865fps will feel softer than N330, N340, or WSF pushing a 115gr at 1100fps, even though those loads would have an identical power factor.

My own load is 3.3gr N310 with a Berry's 147RN. It functions a Beretta Brigadier and a G19 perfectly with their stock springs.

[WARNING: N310 is not listed anywhere with 147's. Use these loads AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
 
In my experience, 90-100 PF (Power Factor) is about the least that will operate some 9mm's, such as CZ's. A Glock requires a bit more for reliable operation.

-z
 
Being ver specific to you question and after experimenting with 11 powders I found that 4 grains of PB driving a lead round nose in 155 grains will do exactly what you want.
 
Thanks threefeathers.

I can only get Vihtavuori powders where I live, but checking with the various burn rate charts on the net it seems that N330 is similar to PB.

I shall get hold of some heavy 9mm bullet heads and try to make something as close as I can to your suggestion.

Regards

T.S.
 
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