Pocket Auto 380 similar to Seecamp with Euro/Heel Magazine release

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What other pocket autos chambered in 380 share the same features as the Seecamp; Euro Mag release and double action with flush hammer.

I don't think I was a Rohrbaugh. Not sure if that was spelled right.

I wish Ruger had the heel release. Unless someone can talk me into side button not being a concern, I'm a big Ruger fan.
 
The Rohrbaugh R380 has a heel magazine release.

Rohrbaugh was purchased by Remington and they redesigned the R380 to have a traditional button release on the side of the grip. The new Remington gun is called the RM380.

The original Rohrbaugh R380 went for $1,050 to $1,100

A few things that are nice about the heel release is that it is almost impossible to bump it and accidentally release the magazine, and they meet the 10-round mag limit requirements. You can't get an extended magazine to work in those things because of the heel release.
 
BTW Karl Rohrbaugh said that he was inspired by the shape of the Seecamp when he was designing the R9 (and the R380)
 
You can get a Kydex pocket holster that covers the release. PJ Holsters and Alabama Holster will make them that way if you contact them and request it.
 
98s1lightning said:
What other pocket autos chambered in 380 share the same features as the Seecamp; Euro Mag release and double action with flush hammer.

I don't think I was a Rohrbaugh. Not sure if that was spelled right.

I wish Ruger had the heel release. Unless someone can talk me into side button not being a concern, I'm a big Ruger fan.
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I have the Ruger LCP Custom with a standard mag release. I carry it all the time in a Desantis pocket holster. The button mag release has never been an issue.
 
98s1lightning said:
What other pocket autos chambered in 380 share the same features as the Seecamp; Euro Mag release and double action with flush hammer.

I don't think I was a Rohrbaugh. Not sure if that was spelled right.

I wish Ruger had the heel release. Unless someone can talk me into side button not being a concern, I'm a big Ruger fan.
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If you are planning to carry in your pocket then the heel mag release is a concern. I've owned several 380's and had one or more partly drop the mag in pocket carry even with a holster. Looks like a Makarov 9x18 and the sig 230 both have heel releases. Same for the polish P-64 again in 9x18
 
I do extensive research on firearms especially before I buy them. Currently I believe, that as far as micro pistols from companies that are still in business, with heel mag release the only one out there is Seecamp.

I'm the type of person that if I can't find something to fill my needs I will go without. This might be one of those time where I have to say they don't make what I'm looking for and not buy anything for this role. The Rohrbaugh might fill the role, but with no company in business for customer support, I think I'll pass. If it was a 350 dollar pistol I might go for it, but to be out approx. $1000 if it breaks, I don't think so.
 
The Beretta Pico doesn’t utilize a push button style mag release. It might be an option to consider.

However, with a kydex holster that covers the release, it can’t be engaged because of the rigid kydex, and then you have nothing to worry about. It opens your options up to any pocket 380.
 
I understand the PICO is a great little pistol.

However, if I'm not mistaken, the Seecamp is quite a bit smaller in overall size than the PICO.
In my opinion, that just means it's easier to shoot well.
 
In a pocket holster, side button mag release is a non issue. When you think about it, with a pocket holster, the side mag release is covered, a heel release is not. I've carried Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Springfield 911, Bersa 380cc... all pocket carry, never dropped a mag
 
I would definitely have to hold the Beretta before committing. And I would say it's definitely in the next size up class from the seecamp.
 
I have the Pico. I've shot maybe a hundred rounds through it with zero failures. It seems to be a high-quality firearm. IIRC, the internal parts are stainless steel. I got mine barely used for about $200 OTD. The flush magazine is a little on the small side and the extended magazine is a little on the large side, but I shoot it fairly well with either.

I don't care for the magazine release, because for me it takes two hands to operate. On the positive side, it's probably faster than a heel release. I personally prefer the button mag release on my LCPII, but admittedly have had to train myself to not accidentally activate it with my thumb. That is something that absolutely can't happen with the Pico.

IMHO, the OP would be better served by the trigger guard Pico mag release than by a traditional heel one. It's quicker and easier to operate, but similarly won't be released by an accidental jostling of some kind.

Jeb Stuart will probably add a comment here soon. He's quite the Pico fan. :)

Beretta Pico

Beretta Pico

 
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I've had magazines pop loose, too, while in a pocket. I'm left-handed, so the magazine releases are more "exposed" than for most. The guns involved have been the Taurus TCP, Taurus PT22/25, and the Kel-Tec P32. I've been tempted to file down the release button on the KT, but haven't gotten around to it.

At one point, it had gotten bad enough that I had considered pulling my Grendel P10 out of retirement. :scrutiny:
 
The AMT DAO .380 (also 9mm and 45ACP) is what you describe. I carried an AMT for a while... very heavy DAO trigger, bobbed (flush) hammer, heel mag release. This is not the AMT Backup, which, I believe was a DA/SA pistol... but don't quote me on that. It's a mediocre pistol at best. Mine cracked the slide at the ejection port, when I got it back from AMT it quickly went to the gunshow and was traded off... replaced with a Colt Government .380.
 
98s1lightning said:
For the Pico, is the inox the new model or are the all inox?
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All the new models are the improved ones. It says it’s improved or something like that on the box. I don’t know for sure but I think they are all inox.
 
I'm reading and watching that the fit and finish on the Rohrbaugh is outstanding can anyone back that up.

I might be interested in loading some "lighter" 9mm loads for a Rohrbaugh if the quality is that good. And not over stressing the gun by shooting it often.
 
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