pocket carry and cargo pants

[Lord Samwise]

Since I started carrying, i have been putting my LCR in a Desantis Nemesis holster and carrying in a cargo pocket. This works great almost all the time, as most of my pants are cargos- however I do want to be able to switch it up a bit, especially needing some "dressier" pants for work- nothing too fancy though.

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with these pants:
http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/hidden_cargo_pants.shtml
If so, do you think that the LCR would fit in the "lower" hidden pocket, without making too rediculous of a bulge? Thoughts, oppinions?

 

[Avenger29]

I've got what's pretty much the same idea- the 5.11 "Covert" khakis. I don't know about putting an LCR in the pocket, they are not exactly huge and the zipper is small (for concealment). Plus, I find that for my T-Rex arms, a cargo pocket is inconvenient to reach down for.

 

[Lord Samwise]

anyone?

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Notice the ad does not show a movie with a person wearing those interior cargo pants with stuff carried in the pockets. With the pockets inside, you are limited in capacity by the limits of the exterior fabric. So unless the pants are really baggy, then you are going to have some bulges.

Given that the 'lower' pocket goes down the thigh, when you sit, there will likely be a prominent bulge.

 

[NMGonzo]

It's going to bulge on a revolver.

Darker colors print less.

Now, wouldn't you be better off with your own custom tailored pants with a custom pocket?

Front pockets are going to bulge a lot, but pockets under your quads (thing 4 o'clock position) will not be all that visible, since the rest of your leg is hiding them.

Think of those carpenter pockets, but hidden.

 

[MichiganShootist]

I like my pocket holster to bulge.

At my age that's the only way I get a decent pants bulge

 

[Ed Harris]

I don't wear 5.11s because they look too much like military or LE wear. The bad guys will suspect that you are carrying, you may as well wear a T-shirt that says "Wannabee Ninja Warrior Out Looking for Trouble."
I prefer ordinary plain vanilla work pants from Duluth Trading Company.
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/clothes-workwear/mens/mens-pants/95016.aspx?feature=product_4
Their deep pockets accept a Desantis holster just fine. They come in big boy sizes and full cut. This is important for older guys like me who haven't been in "lean and mean" battle trim since they came back home to the world. The Duluth Presentation khakis and sport coats also work well when you need something more presentable which blends in and "won't scare the natives."

 

[Double Naught Spy]

I don't wear 5.11s because they look too much like military or LE wear. The bad guys will suspect that you are carrying, you may as well wear a T-shirt that says "Wannabee Ninja Warrior Out Looking for Trouble."

Well, if you think the bad guys will recognize the 5.11 pants as military or LE wear, then how do you figure they will consider the person to be a wannabe and not a military or LE person? Are you saying that they know clothing that well and have the ability to know the occupation of the person wearing it? Heck, there are crackheads and dopeheads that can't even find their own homes, for crying out loud and the druggies make up a huge part of the bad guy population.

 

[biblefreak]

I don't wear 5.11s because they look too much like military or LE wear. The bad guys will suspect that you are carrying, you may as well wear a T-shirt that says "Wannabee Ninja Warrior Out Looking for Trouble."
I prefer ordinary plain vanilla work pants from Duluth Trading Company.
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/clothes-workwear/mens/mens-pants/95016.aspx?feature=product_4
Their deep pockets accept a Desantis holster just fine. They come in big boy sizes and full cut. This is important for older guys like me who haven't been in "lean and mean" battle trim since they came back home to the world. The Duluth Presentation khakis and sport coats also work well when you need something more presentable which blends in and "won't scare the natives."

I guess I am in trouble then! I wear cargos (usually Dickies) because they are effective! I don't carry stuff in my back pockets, tends to be bad for the back. Especially the "Kramer Wallet"! I usually have more stuff in my pockets then what would allow for pocket carry. Keys, thumbdrive, pocket knife, flashlight, wallet etc. I don't know how I could carry anything else. Maybe the OP could look into another method of carry? Perhaps a tuckable IWB or Thunderwear could work. Both slower to draw from, but a cargo pocket isn't exactly speedy.

 

[Birdmang]

Cargo pants aren't cool...

 

[BHP FAN]

Well,then I'm not cool...how shall I evah go on?

 

[Birdmang]

Its better than sweatpants...ill give you that.

 

[TimboKhan]

Heck, there are crackheads and dopeheads that can't even find their own homes, for crying out loud and the druggies make up a huge part of the bad guy population.

You are underestimating the enemy. Druggies may be a huge part of the bad guy population, but they aren't all stupid. They can read, and some of them even like guns and would be considered Gunnies aside from the whole life-of-crime thing. Stupid enough to do drugs doesn't mean that your aren't smart enough to do a whole lot of other things, to include knowing what kind of crowd wears 5.11 pants. I am willing to bet a fairly large wad of cash that there are convicted felons that contribute right here on THR, and if I am right about that, there goes the theory that the bad guys (former or otherwise) are unaware of guns, tactics, 5.11 pants, timney triggers, or whatever else.

Is that a likely scenario, the savvy tacticool criminal? Probably not, but if your going to base your decision based on what is likely to happen, don't bother carrying a gun, because the reality is that you are extraordinarily unlikely to use it. If, on the other hand, you want to be prepared for possible bad situations, carry a gun and consider that your enemy is not stupid, in the dark, or willing to let you stand there and shoot him down.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

You failed to explain how it is that the criminals are psychic and know the occupation, training, etc. of the person wear the pants. How do you know that because of recognizing the pants as 5.11 or whatever that the criminal won't be scared off by the possible cop/military person? You think it makes that person a target when the opposite potentially true as well.

So criminals read or participate on this board. Fine. What about all the non gun people that wear 5.11 gear because they simply like it? Are they 'wannabees' as well?

It isn't about underestimating the enemy. It is about the unrealistic attribution of psychic powers beyond fashion knowledge that troubled me.

 

[TimboKhan]

I didn't address it because I don't care, really. If a criminal wants to make an assumption of my occupation and training because of what I wear, fine with me. A baseball cap doesn't mean I can hit a fastball, a Broncos jersey doesn't make me a Bronco, and workboots don't make me a lumberjack. If a criminal wants to assume any of those things one way or the other, fine.

I simply was addressing the insinuation (and I know you probably don't think that every crook is stupid) that all or most criminals are druggies too stoned or stupid to find there own way home. That's dangerous thinking, at least in my opinion.