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Police Dismay after Sheriff Grants Hunter Magnum Licence (Scotland)

Discussion in 'Legal' started by cuchulainn, Aug 3, 2005.

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  1. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Member

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    http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1687002005

     
  2. Jake

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    Anybody want to start a collection to get this guy a S&W 500. I figure just the thought of that would make peoples heads explode.
     
  3. Cesiumsponge

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    Uhh, why does a vet get the special rights to use a .44mag? I thought they used lethal injection to put down pets, not a .44mag slug through the skull. :confused:

    Granted I can see justification if an animal hops up and attempts to bite someone. However, the vet always has a few helpers around. He is in more risk hitting an innocent bystander (due to vicinity and inexperience) than a professional hunter.
     
  4. Kurush

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    To deal with rabies most likely.
     
  5. Marshall

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    What an Idiot............
    Yea boy, I hunt deer with a .38 caliber handgun. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Joejojoba111

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    I thought if you had the word 'National' in your party name it meant you were right wing? I read what the party spokesman said at first thinking, "Ahha, he's arguing that the firearms laws are crazy because this man is getting the fifth degree for his absolutely legitimate need of said firearm." Then I read the next sentence the guy spoke, and it's not what I expected!

    "Kenny MacAskill, the Scottish National Party's justice spokesman, told The Scotsman that the judgment highlighted the need for an urgent review of Britain's gun laws. He said: "The gentleman in question is clearly entitled to have a firearm to carry out his work,..."

    So far so good, I'm about to start clapping, my hands are poised and on an intercept course, then:

    "...but there are guns and there are guns. And he is a gamekeeper, not Clint Eastwood."

    Abort, abort clapping! My hands hit at an obtuse angle, one deflecting up and out and the other into the desktop. I have to look this up whether the 'nationals' are in fact on the right. Perhaps it is bizarro world, where right wing is anti and the left wing is pro. Or maybe there's anti and super anti.

    And how the hell can he slaughter animals with a knife when they are banning pointy knives? Hell ask for a pointy knife permit and some jackass will say "Whoa there, this isn't some Japanese Samurai movie, just use a hammer like ordinary people do."
     
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    I am surprised they didn't make him carry a spear.
     
  8. Standing Wolf

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    I think the English probably would have been happier under Nazi rule. To think that sorry excuse for a nation once ruled the largest empire the world has ever seen!
     
  9. Joejojoba111

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    It used to be that no English Gentleman was completely dressed without a pistol in his pocket. I'll say things have certainly changed.
     
  10. hifi

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    Boy these articles are cracking me up tonight!! :D
     
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    I think that they still use the old-method for livestock etc. Family pets still get the injection, but if a farm animal needs to be put down by a subsistance farmer i doubt they would select a method that would make the meat inedible.

    There are a selection of captive-bolt firearms (propells a steel rod/bolt into the head of the animal via a blank charge) that are marketed for this purpose (James Harriot makes mention of using one in one of the "all craetures great and small" books). Its possible that those tools arent substantial enough for larger animals, or that even those require a permit.
     
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    Soooo, you can own and carry a gun if it is required for my job, eh?

    My job requires me to stay alive... :cool:
     
  13. stevelyn

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    This makes me embarrassed to be of Scotish decent.
     
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    I am so glad we don't have to go through this sort of BS in the States....yet.
     
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    "cult thriller film" :scrutiny:

    You don't suppose he's confusing Eastwood with the guy in Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

    John
     
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    I guess I can see why a vet would need a firearm to put down a farm animal but if I took my dog to the vet and he said there is nothing he could do but put my dog down and then he pulled out a pistol my piece would be out about a half second later. :what:

    I finished off a deer with a rifle bullet to the head and I was worried about a ricochet at the time. I was a little disgusted at the result, too. After the .30-06 to the head there were about two ounces of brain left in the skull. :barf:
     
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    Yeah ... I'll get right on that
     
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    most likely because they are the "right kind of people". Traditionally a vet would be from the upper class--a dr as it were. Most gun control laws there or here were aimed at keeping guns away from the "wrong sort"--ie "poor people" and other "undesirables". I'm sure if you're Prince Charles, or virtually any noble type for that matter, or a member of parliament, or some other privileged type, its no problem owning firearms still. Its just the "common" types that can't have them. A long standing tradition in Great Britain--arm the peasants so they can do most of the dying in the wars, then take the guns away quick afterwards so the retches can't be turning them against their lawful rulers!
     
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    Stupid politicians aside, what does he do with all that meat?! Surely hope that it is not wasted...
     
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    Who said parliament was banning pointy knives?The only I've thing heard was that same team of doctors in Middlesex suggesting a ban a long,pointed kitchen knives.Which is far from being made into law.
     
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    second case with a similar result http://www.basc.org.uk/content/0621_deer_despatch1
    Scottish National Party is very anti-gun. Make the present lot look like moderates. Their policy after Dunblane massacre was 'cancel all gun licences imediately and impound the guns, then the owner can make out a case, if he can, for having them back'
     
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    I just thought i would mention that the vets are using either .22s or the captive-bolt pistols that mimick the wound of a .22 Noone is putting down animals with a .44 simply due to the mess that would be involved. The standard practice is to fire into the head as many times as necessary to ensure "permanent unconsciousness" (usually once) and then to cut the throat and allow the animal to bleed out.
     
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    the vet's slaughtering gun which I saw was a Taurus revolver in .32 S&W Long. It had a single chamber cylinder which did not revolve, no sights, and the barrel was counterbored for much of its length.
     
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    What a bunch of ninnies.
     
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