Police officer probed for killing dog

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A cocker spaniel for cripes sake! What the hell is wrong with these guys?



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33194

Police officer probed
for killing dog
Owner calls for criminal investigation of front-yard shooting

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Posted: June 21, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

A dog owner is calling for a criminal investigation into the lethal shooting of her 6-year-old cocker spaniel by a police officer.

Valerie Mueller was in her backyard with her dog Sprite in the early morning hours last Saturday trying to talk a friend out of suicide when police arrived, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported.



The 38-pound dog bounded into the front yard toward the officers as they got out of their squad cars and just seconds later was struck by a bullet and killed.

"He fell over and flinched," Mueller, 33, told the Milwaukee paper. "To see him fall over flinching and die right there, it's just hard to explain."

On top of her loss, police issued Mueller a $120 citation for allowing Sprite to be outside without a leash.

The Milwaukee Police Department is now investigating whether lethal force was necessary to subdue the dog, the Journal Sentinel said.

Mueller's attorney Alan Eisenberg called the shooting "reckless" and filed a complaint Wednesday with the city's Fire and Police Commission. He also is asking the Milwaukee County district attorney to conduct a criminal investigation.

The Milwaukee daily said Mueller's dog-shooting complaint is the first the commission has received this year. Last year, the commission probed three shootings of dogs by police officers.

Another friend of Mueller's, David Williams, witnessed the shooting.

"I told [police], 'The dog is harmless, don't hurt the dog,'" Williams said. "Three seconds later, they shot the dog."

The Journal Sentinel said Sprite was so much a part of Mueller's life that she had his paw prints tattooed onto her right foot.

"He was my best friend," she told the paper. "I did everything with him."

The female officer who shot the dog, Chaquila C. Peavy, 28, has been on the force since November 2001. Police Chief Arthur Jones said shooting a dog is justified if the officer "reasonably feels that they're in danger."

Jill De Grave, education director for the Wisconsin Humane Society, told the Journal Sentinel police officers should have to prove pet killings are justified, the same as if a person were shot.

"Everybody has to be accountable for their actions, especially when something dies as a result," De Grave said. "The officer must have felt very, very threatened to pull the trigger."

De Grave said police officers could benefit from training on handling dogs and reading behavior.
 
The police respond to a call of someone who is suicidal. They shoot a dog in the front yard. Talk about losing sight of your goals. I bet the shooting did wonders for the person who was suicial.
As a paramedic, I have responded on thousands of calls just like this one. Never once have I felt threatened by a dog.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
 
Here is the dog:

spritea071903.jpg

Unlike the smoak/dog shooting, no video of this one...yet judging from the picture, would be hard to envision a reasonable person being fearful enough to warrant use of deadly force. The threshhold has now been lowered.

We've been conditioned to lea's "circling the wagons" to protect their own in cases like this. What makes it worse, the pd felt it necessary to write a citation to the owner! For callousness alone, I hope they get taken to the proverbial cleaners on this one.
 
Police will be blamed no matter what.

Part of "circling the wagons" is being completely dismissive of the facts related to the incident...no matter what.
 
After going off on GlockTalk's "Stickman" for circling the wagons on a dog shooting, I no longer comment on dog shootings.
 
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While at work last week, myself and the guy i work with were in a park. A van pulls up and out steps a gent with two pit bulls.

We were about 20 to 30 feet from this guy when the larger of the two dogs, [the male] takes out after us. the force of this animal coming to the end of the chain he was teathered to literally knocked the owner off his feet and to the ground.

I can't carry legally on this particular job [ city policy].

But, if i had been i would have drawn down on this animal.

Some people are afraid of any type of dog, just like snakes, spiders, etc...

While living in the southern portion of this state, there was a big problem with packs of dogs roaming about in rural areas and harrassing & killing livestock.

Iowa code states ANY dog off a leash with no collar & tags can be shot legally.

I understand the attachment and bond people form with thier pets. But they must take responsibility for said animal and abide by the codes set forth for thier tratment and care in the state they live in.

12-34hom.
 
444,
I edited to remove the comments I don't make any longer :) What's the point. Cops will shoot dogs that may pose a threat -- fact. I've given up trying to reason with LEOs on the board regarding dogs getting shot in their own yards for doing what dogs do.

Thee,
Leo the bishon frise wasn't shot by a cop in line of duty so it probably is not a good comparison. However, considering the emotions people attach to dogs, one wonders why LE is surprised when people are outraged by incidents such as this latest pet dog shooting -- and then they cited the owner :rolleyes:
 
Some people are afraid of any type of dog, just like snakes, spiders, etc...

Well, when a LEO comes out to my house on a 911 call, I hope they don't send one who is afraid of my cat.:rolleyes:
 
Thee,
Leo the bishon frise wasn't shot by a cop in line of duty so it probably is not a good comparison. However, considering the emotions people attach to dogs, one wonders why LE is surprised when people are outraged by incidents such as this latest pet dog shooting -- and then they cited the owner
It is a perfect example of the emotions attached to animals, regardless of who.
I love my dog, and protect it by making sure it's on the leash, or yard chain, or inside the dog fence. I still remember one time I was "lazy" and didn't click on the leash on my shep. My shep has always been very mild mannered. I was exiting the parents house after a visit and headed for the car 15 ft away. Someone was walking their dog on the other side of the street and my shep ran over aggresively at the other dog. I ran over and got control of my dog, but was chewed out by the guy (very rightfully so). The lesson? Even the most people friendly dog (mine) is still just a dog, and such can be unpredictable. If I had been the gun walking the dog I'd have been frightened of my shep who ran over all teeth/bark/fur and business. My shep has never displayed this behavior again, & I've never allowed a chance for it to ever run if it did. Dogs have to be protected from themselves. My neighbor is pissed to no end about a truck that hit and killed their dog on the road. The neighbors thought is this, "I don't think they tried hard enough to avoid the dog". There is no way they will ever accept the fact that having let their dog roam their yard (and sometime the entire neighborhoods) lead to this. The hubby still would like to 'meet the driver in some dark alley'. Some people just won't take the answer. I know I'd be more than upset if my dog was hit and killed, and I suspect outrage would be the 1st emotion I'd feel, but reason and logic would point out the real problem......me, letting the dog roam loose.
 
When there is a dead dog the Police will be blamed no matter what.

Wait, maybe we should blame the gun manufacturer.:rolleyes:
 
Thee,
Emotions attached to pets are pretty normal. Unfortunately, it's becoming fairly commonplace to hear about dogs being shot by police for "acting aggressively". In this latest case I suspect the LEO was acting emotionally.

A good dog will almost always check out (sniff sniff) anybody that enters their territory, it's natural. Some police apparently see this behavior as an aggressive potential threat and shoot the animal to remove the threat. No big, it's just property.

Done. I've already said too much.
 
Something that is interesting about this is that usually there is a level of force that is upgraded as the situation merits (I didn't put that very well). If attacked by a human who was unarmed, most places would consider it appropriate to use a baton, or possibly pepper spray to subdue the attacker. For some reason with dogs, no matter their size, the inital step taken is lethal force.
 
If attacked by a human who was unarmed, most places would consider it appropriate to use a baton, or possibly pepper spray to subdue the attacker
True, the key word is "human". Batons are not appropriate on animals, nor are "wrist locks" or other type of unarmed defensive tactics. Sprays may be an option depending on many things including but not limited to:

1) availability
2) wind
3) proximity
4) rate of advance
5) terrain
 
"Batons are not appropriate on animals"
Really, that is news to me.

So back to the point, you are saying that lethal force is appropriate ? On a cocker spaniel ? In a neighborhood ? As an inital reaction ? Right ouside the door of someone that is suicidal ?
We all know the real answer to this question, some will argue for the sake of argument.
 
A cocker spaniel.

OK. Ya. Right.

Call me skeptical :scrutiny:.

That said, you do sometimes see otherwise "known harmless" breeds attack.

Kevin McClung (of MD knives fame) once told a story from his vet tech days, of a dog that latched onto his leg and wouldn't let go :eek:. He got mad, punched the dang thing right on the top of the head, and purely by accident killed it deader'n'Elvis. One knuckle cracked through one of the thin bone areas at the top of the skull to either side of the central ridge.

It was a friggin' BEAGLE!

:banghead:
 
Lets say this was the most aggressive, vicious 38 pound cocker spaniel ever whelped. What can it do to you ? Bite you ? "latch onto your leg and not let go" ? And this justifies the use of deadly force ? In a neighborhood ? .................................................

Jim, just out of curiosity, what was the final settlement for the lawsuit on that guy that killed the dog at the vets office ? Talk about a slam dunk lawsuit; you take your dog in for medical care and they cave it's head in. Kinda hard to explain.

Jim, you can be skeptical, but we had an incident here locally where an off duty cop shot his next door neighbors dog because it came into his yard. The dog weighed about 10 pounds and belonged to an elderly woman. He is now a former cop. A very much unemployed, trigger happy, irresponsible nazi.
This isn't speculation, there was a whole lot of local media coverage about it. Many witnesses.
 
I saw a video of a San Antonio Police officer beat a tied up cockerspaniel repeatedly with a shovel (two hand overhead grip)
while responding to a domestic call.

The small dog was secured to a tree and barking at the cop.

The other cops were ignoring the dog and taking care of the call when one cops suddenly picked up a shovel leaning against the house and proceded to beat the dog to death.

He was put on administrative duty for a day and wasn't prosecuted because the dept offered to buy the family a new dog.

I was fortunate enough to see this on the 6 o'clock news.....
 
444
"Batons are not appropriate on animals"
Can you tell me where the appropriate striking zones are on a dog charging you? Where are the nerve plexis zones? On a human you can go for the several areas that house nerves inside muscle mass, thus giving a target that not only can disable the person, but leave no lasting injury such as a broken bone, nerve damage, or a crippled joint/member. Where are these zones on a dog? Perhaps you’d like to contact ASP or PPCT and ask for their Expert advice?
 
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