I don't think the DC laws hold on fed property. It's a jurisdictional conflict. Off the fed footprint, sure.
To say "the situation I am in" when you read the entire quote make clear he thinks his situation is different than every one else. Why add the words "the situation I am in" if he did not think it was unique and thus above the law? As I said how is "his situation" any different than some single mom in Southeast Washington DC? Other than his inflated mindset of self importance, it is not. You have the same concern to protect your family and yourself. But what he is saying is his situation is different by phrasing as he did. His situation must be special in his mind. That is what I am attacking. He is like anyone else. We all want to be able to protect ourselves and our loved ones.
Royh, You are being overly generous to him.
For him to say "my situation" clearly means he thinks his situation is special. What else could it mean?
I have heard the man is pro gun yet he voted for a bill to help silence groups like the NRA.
What pro-gun legislation is he working on or has he introduced?
Webb, has not just sprung on the political scene. He has been around for decades. He was Reagan's Secretary of the Navy,back when I was in DC. He is a novelist, he has a track record of this sort of behavior. Do some research on him, you will find he is not behaving out of character here. Heck just look to what his fellow Democrats were saying about him during the primaries.
As far as his friend Phillip Thompson. His behavior has been deplorable. The poor guy has already spent a night in jail because he was carrying the Senator's gun. The thanks he gets from Webb? The Senator distancing himself from Thompson...Leaving him hanging out to dry. No legal assistance... I have seen nothing to admire in the man in this fiasco.
"Since 9/11 for people who are in government I think in general there has been an agreement that it's a more dangerous time.
This, on top of the previous comment, shows me he was inferring HE has a bit more to worry about then us normal folks down here
he was REAL close to saying something really worthy, but sort of key-holed it to be only elitist members of the govt that deserve special attention.
"Since 9/11 for people in general there has been an agreement that it's a more dangerous time.
it’s important for me, personally, and for most other people, to be able to defend themselves and their family.
He would have got it right - instead he narrowed his defense, and the Right, down to HIM, and so screwed the rest of us.
Members of Congress may be able to have guns in the Congressional office buildings but you can't get to those Federal buildings without using DC streets. . . .So for a member of Congress to get from his or her home in the district, Virginia or Maryland to the capitol armed is a crime at this time.
Robert Hairless: Could you not argue that if Mr. Webb is arrested and convicted the Democrats would see that even their own like guns and perhaps the ban on guns in D.C. is a little to harsh?
Webb is just another Democrat lying traitor. His only "Support" of the 2nd amendment is a lie to attract votes from stupid people.
If Webb was a real man he would have immediately submitted a bill to repeal all the DC illegal restrictions on self defense after his election. Anything else is just Democrat lies as always.
Geoff
Who knows who the enemy is.
1. I don't know whether you have a reading comprehension problem or are deliberately misquoting people, but I didn't say most of the things you attribute to me. Read it again.Robert Hairless said:Ramjet has a couple of interesting points too. I was fascinated by his revelation that Rudy Giulani and Mike Bloomberg (we're all so close that we use each others' nicknames) brandished their concealed weapons. I missed seeing that on the news. As for what Jim Webb did to advocate the Second Amendment, I guess he hasn't done anything except to advocate it in the newspaper interview I read, which isn't real advocating because he did it, and to own and have a gun and a concealed weapons permit, which isn't real either because he had them.
I have to admit that Ramjet could be right in saying that there is no evidence that "he violated any law in the recent incident and he certainly hasn't admitted to violating any law. Even if he admitted to carrying a concealed weapon in DC, that law wasn't struck down by the DC appeals court." That's why nothing happened. Those darned newspapers can't be trusted. Next thing is that someone will say that Sarge doesn't really beat up Beetle Bailey and it's all a fake.
1. What concrete things has Jim Webb done to "advocate" the Second Amendment besides brandish his CCW during the campaign and claim he's a 2A supporter (as do Rudy Giuliani, Mike Bloomberg, et al)? Dianne Feinstein is a CCW holder and gun owner, too -- does this make her a 2A advocate?
2. What law did he violate? There's no evidence thaty he violated any law in the recent incident and he certainly hasn't admitted to violating any law. Even if he admitted to carrying a concealed weapon in DC, that law wasn't struck down by the DC appeals court.
You completely miss my point Robert. However I don't think trying to explain it again will get me anywhere. :banghead:
1. What concrete things has Jim Webb done to "advocate" the Second Amendment besides brandish his CCW during the campaign and claim he's a 2A supporter (as do Rudy Giuliani, Mike Bloomberg, et al)? Dianne Feinstein is a CCW holder and gun owner, too -- does this make her a 2A advocate?
2. What law did he violate? There's no evidence that he violated any law in the recent incident and he certainly hasn't admitted to violating any law. Even if he admitted to carrying a concealed weapon in DC, that law wasn't struck down by the DC appeals court.]
And I said there's no evidence that he violated a law, and in any case, only parts of the DC law were declared unconstitutional in Parker, those parts having to do with keeping handguns in the home and having functional long arms, neither of which applies in Webb's case. If you have evidence that Jim Webb violated a law, by all means share it with us and with the prosecutors in DC. All I've seen so far is that evidence that his staffer broke the law.Jim Webb violated a Washington, D.C. law that has just been ruled unconstitutional in the Parker v. D.C. appeal.
Other than he supports having his own CCW license make your case for that.You are attacking someone on your side as a gun owner.
Actually I articulated that in this article which was also posted here recently.you think it's unfair that he might not get burned really badly for having a gun in a city in which the gun law prohibiting what he did has been declared unconstitutional in Parker v. D.C. You don't attack the law, you attack the Senator from the other party who is being fussed at because the law was broken. You be upholding the Second Amendment.
Robert, why then when Webb had the chance to vote for stripping language that would have silenced grassroots groups he voted 'NO', in lock-step with 43 other 'Party Members'. Luckily the amendment passed, no thanks to him or Casey from PA.
Yes indeed, I can see that you don't think Jim Webb is a suitable ally because he doesn't meet all your tests.
Now you may read "CCW" as "gun" but everyone I know reads CCW as shorthand for "permit to carry a concealed weapon."