Polytech and Norinco AK47

[RJMacReady]

Which do you prefer; the Polytech or Norinco AK47 or both and why.
There is alot of debate over the milled and stamped AK47 rifle and which is more accurate, reliable and durable, what is your experience or thoughts on the subject.
It is believed that the AK47 is only accurate out to 300 meters and that it cannot hit a man sized target at 500 meters, although I doubt that anyone would want to find out, IMHO with peep sights and a good shooter that belief could be disproved as the bullet doesnt simply stop at 300 meters and fall to the ground.

 

[RJMacReady]

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[Spencer]

Arsenal. They sell the highest quality AKs made. Now they have discontinued many of the milled models in order to produce some stamped models though, so they may be difficult to find. Nevertheless, an Arsenal stamped AK would be of better quality than the Chinese Polytech/Norinco brands.

 

[RJMacReady]

Can Arsenal AK47 rifles use any AK47 parts?

Can Arsenal AK47 rifles use any AK47 mags?

What AK47 bayonet does the Arsenal AK47 use?

What is with that bright bolnde stock anyway, cant they tone it down a little, might as well put a beacon light on it(Ha Ha), nice lookers though?

So Arsenal is considered more accurate, reliable and durable than any other AK47?
Thanks.

 

[soul_rapier]

all ak are about the same

Arsenal is a good gun but over priced now i got 1 years ago and it only cost $250 now i seen they are goin for more then a m4 and all ak are about the same . i own 1 of all listed above i like 1 of my norinco's but its an akm and higher quality then the newer norinco but my polytech is my baby of the bunch they all are close , any ak that built by a factory (not homeade) are accurate, reliable and durable just watch your ammo hollow points from wolf will make them jamm there's a fix for that make a feed ramp on the barrel and feed them good then good luck if ya hunting for one.

 

[Spencer]

Can Arsenal AK47 rifles use any AK47 parts?

Can Arsenal AK47 rifles use any AK47 mags?

What AK47 bayonet does the Arsenal AK47 use?

What is with that bright bolnde stock anyway, cant they tone it down a little, might as well put a beacon light on it(Ha Ha), nice lookers though?

So Arsenal is considered more accurate, reliable and durable than any other AK47?
Thanks.

Arsenal is really just a high quality brand of AK.
I'm not sure on the parts. But yes for the magazines. My dad had a couple of Polytech 30 rounders and they fit right into our Arsenal SA-M7 C and feed very well. I'm not sure on the bayonet but I'm pretty sure a regular AK-47 bayonet would fit the bayonet lug of an Arsenal. They offer many more rifles than just the SA-M7 Classics with blonde wood.

This is their website- www.arsenalinc.com

They are of much higher quality than Norinco and Polytech and I like them better than Valmet guns.

They're lookers, they have great accuracy, and they are without a doubt imo the most reliable/durable.

all ak are about the same

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Arsenal is a good gun but over priced now i got 1 years ago and it only cost $250 now i seen they are goin for more then a m4 and all ak are about the same . i own 1 of all listed above i like 1 of my norinco's but its an akm and higher quality then the newer norinco but my polytech is my baby of the bunch they all are close , any ak that built by a factory (not homeade) are accurate, reliable and durable just watch your ammo hollow points from wolf will make them jamm there's a fix for that make a feed ramp on the barrel and feed them good then good luck if ya hunting for one.

I think $600-800 is a fair price for AK-47s this high in quality. On Arsenal's website you see the true retail values. All AK-47s aren't the same. If you take a look at a Chinese made Norinco AK-47 next to an Arsenal AK-47, you can clearly see the difference in quality.

Also, I don't see anything so great about an M4. They have plastic stocks and aluminum receivers. I see no reason why these guns shouldn't be worth as much if not more than an M4.

 

[soul_rapier]

shoot them you will see they are about the same i have shot thousands of rounds thru all of mine they are the same to me stamped , milled it dont matter they all accurate, reliable and durable the newer ak aren't as good in my opinion any ak made in the U S can't be better i'd rather have a old ak .and yes you can tell the difference in some of the ak's by just picking them up an feeling them and just looking at them . and i dont know why m4 cost so much they just do i looked at for $980 too high for a ar

 

[Spencer]

shoot them you will see they are about the same i have shot thousands of rounds thru all of mine they are the same to me stamped , milled it dont matter they all accurate, reliable and durable the newer ak aren't as good in my opinion any ak made in the U S can't be better i'd rather have a old ak .and yes you can tell the difference in some of the ak's by just picking them up an feeling them and just looking at them . and i dont know why m4 cost so much they just do i looked at for $980 too high for a ar

Yes, in shooting terms they would probably be about the same. But I'm talking quality, like the higher quality of the material it's made with and how carefully and well it is made.

This is where Arsenal shines.

And I agree ARs are overpriced.

 

[RJMacReady]

IMO it wouldnt make any sense for any factory made AK47 to be made with inferior materials in an inferior fashion in order to make an inferior weapon as the workmanship would manifest itself and no one would touch it once they saw how inaccurate, unreliable and undurable it was, not to mention that the steel stamping method is supposedly the newer method that most every AK47 factory has gone to because of expense and materials yet states that it still produces a quality AK47.
Just as it doesnt make any sense that simply because its an AK47 rifle being so inaccurate that it cant hit a man sized target at 500 meters.
There is no known positive proof that the AK47 was designed to not be able to hit a target over 300 meters, only that most combat occured within 300 meters.
There are numerous accounts of the stamped AK47 rifle being every bit as accurate, reliable and durable as the milled AK47, and am wondering if all of the downtalking of the stamped AK47 is really all just hype, thats my .02 cents.

 

[Onmilo]

I had a Norinco stamped receiver MAK90 that was fairly accurate for such an inexpensive rifle.
I could make a lot more profit money on Poly-Tech AKs because they appeared to be better made but they weren't really any more accurate than the Norincos.

Sold off all that stuff when I closed up my shop.
Now I just own an Egyptian MAADI and it is a bullet hose.

 

[Spencer]

IMO it wouldnt make any sense for any factory made AK47 to be made with inferior materials in an inferior fashion in order to make an inferior weapon as the workmanship would manifest itself and no one would touch it once they saw how inaccurate, unreliable and undurable it was, not to mention that the steel stamping method is supposedly the newer method that most every AK47 factory has gone to because of expense and materials yet states that it still produces a quality AK47.
Just as it doesnt make any sense that simply because its an AK47 rifle being so inaccurate that it cant hit a man sized target at 500 meters.
There is no known positive proof that the AK47 was designed to not be able to hit a target over 300 meters, only that most combat occured within 300 meters.
There are numerous accounts of the stamped AK47 rifle being every bit as accurate, reliable and durable as the milled AK47, and am wondering if all of the downtalking of the stamped AK47 is really all just hype, thats my .02 cents.

Woah there.

I already discussed this with other people.
The stamped AK-47 is just as reliable and accurate as a milled one, the difference is the durability/quality of the gun. Most milled ones are better made and higher quality than most stamped ones. Although the Arsenal stamped ones look really nice.

 

[RJMacReady]

Well its a matter of opinion and preference as some like stamped, some milled, some both, as for me I dont see a real difference between the two personally except for the fact that one is stamped and one is milled, other than that as from my experience neither one out performs the other, of course I can only speak of the Chinese weapons as I have not dealt with any of the others yet.

 

[Spencer]

I can tell you, the Arsenal made ones may not outperform a Chinese stamped one, but they sure are nicer guns.

 

[RJMacReady]

I dont know, I have handled an Arsenal RPK and as a matter of fact they are show stoppers, cant wait to use one. I like the classics myself and want an Arsenal RPK, they are sweet, I will have to get used to the blonde stock though, but its nice just different than what I am used too.

 

[Spencer]

I was going to buy an Arsenal RPK but I decided to get a Mini-14

 

[RJMacReady]

Do you like the Mini 14? Why not an AR15?

 

[Spencer]

Yeah. I chose the mini because it's just a matter of preference. I first liked the looks of the mini better and it seemed to me I would like the action/design better. I also heard from many of my friends and reviews of the gun that the mini-14 was great. So, I decided to get a stainless model, and I came to find out just how much I like it. It's my favorite gun.

 

[RJMacReady]

What kind of accuracy do you get with it?

 

[Spencer]

I can hit a target the size of a human head consistently with it at 50 yards. I've only shot it with open sights and no prop so that would probably affect measurements, I don't really bother with that kind of stuff.
I haven't mounted a scope on it and I don't know if I'm going to. Whenever I fired bursts, it wasn't erratically inaccurate like some people claimed it to be. That just might have been their gun.

 

[RJMacReady]

They arent too bad, quite reliable from what I understand and for close in targets accuracy isnt too bad either.
I like an AR15 for .223 for me, as I am just used to them and can get sub moa with them so I am happy with that.

 

[64dDRIVER]

rpk and ak trigger assembly

hey everyone, im serving in iraq at the moment and not sure how much interent use i will get. im new to this forum thing, so i may be posting a question in a reply section. im sorry about the mix up, but i want to ask a question...

can you take a full-auto trigger assembly from an ak and use it in a rpk that is semi-auto? i know the rpk reciever is thicker, but can it work with ak parts?

 

[soul_rapier]

it will work

yes it would work only difference is that the receiver is heavier made,an rpk is just a heavy barreled saw version of an ak