Potential good news for Michigan gun owners

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I'm currently in a wait and see mode, as the text for this bill has not yet been released. If it is written well though, this could be a huge step for Michigan gun owners.

http://www.mcrgo.org/mcrgo/view/news.asp?articleid=2133&zoneid=6

MCRGO champions another breakthrough for gunowners!
2007/02/21
A Great Start in the 2007 Legislative Year!
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February 21, 2007

MCRGO has worked closely with Rep. Opsommer on both the language and timing of this initiative. Sen. Richardville is a member of MCRGO's Board of Directors AND that once introduced, this bill is expected to go to Chairman Sheltrown's committee for consideration --- another MCRGO Director!
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
February 20, 2007
CONTACT: Rep. Opsommer
(517) 373-1778


Rep. Opsommer to Introduce Ban on so-called "Safety Inspections"
Bipartisan effort will have support in both the House and Senate


State Rep. Paul Opsommer (R-93) announced today that he is putting the finishing touches on bills that will remove the need for so-called firearm "safety inspections". Long derided by firearm owners, these post-purchase "safety inspections" are a misnomer as no real inspection takes place and are nothing more than a bureaucratic hassle.

"When first time handgun purchasers take time off work to make the extra trip for their mandatory 'safety inspections', they are surprised when they find out that no real inspection takes place," said Opsommer. "The firearm is not test fired or mechanically inspected in any manner. I heard of one case where the inspector never actually touched the pistol, they just had the owner hold it up to the glass so they could see it. This unnecessary step is being forced onto legal gun-owners who have already gone through background checks and have purchased their firearms through proper channels."

The measure will have support in both chambers and with both parties. Rep. Joel Sheltrown (D-103) supports the measure, stating that "These appear to be nothing more than visual in most cases, and probably have no beneficial value to gun safety." Sen. Randy Richardville (R-17) will run with the legislation on the Senate side. "The Michigan Constitution is very clear on the rights of our citizens when it comes to the 2nd Amendment and the only purpose this law serves is as a backdoor registration scheme," said [MCRGO Director] Senator Richardville.
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Chris
 
I always ask if the People's Republic of Michigan assumes all liabilty if my psitol KB's. They did give me a certificate that states that a "Safety Inspection" was done.:scrutiny: Then I usually make some smart a$$ed remark about how gun registration worked great for Germany, China, USSR, etc. as I walk out the door. They hate me.:cool:
 
I'd have to believe the various LE agencies would be all for getting rid of this too. In macomb county, I stood there last week with 3 pistols spread out on the counter while bumping elbows with all the loyal family members waiting for the start of jail visiting hours to start. What a security disaster waiting to happen.

Nobody who hasn't already gone thru the proper Federal ATF process and the Michigan Purchase permit process to buy a gun is going to bring it in for inspection anyhow. Everyone knows its a redundant registration and not a safety inspection.
 
I live in MI, and the "inspection" is just another word for registration. When I get mine "inspected" they just take it into a room, and record a bunch of info about it, and give me a little green card. They of course have a copy on file that has everything about me and my firearm written down. If they are going to do registrations(which they shouldn't) at least have the balls to call it registration.
 
When i bought my Xd i took it in for inspectin and everything was the normal
but about a year latter i lost my green slip for it and was told that i should carry this while im CPL so i went back in to get a new green slip for the lost one and guess what they lost there papper work and i had been carrying a unregister gun all that time.Well i would have had my slip upto the time i lost it, but still im sure i would have been in handcuffs for a while anyway.Hope this bill goes through.
 
I have been told on pretty good authority that by some strange coincidence for many years a gun presented for "safety inspection" by a black person was always found unsafe and confiscated, where guns presented by whites were always found safe. The police didn't need to look at the gun, only at the owner.

I once posted to that effect and it was denied by a former Detroit police offcer who claimed no such discrimination existed.

But note anyway that gun control laws are not about guns.

Jim
 
Creitzel,

Awesome! “Safety inspections” have always been a huge pet peeve of mine. Thanks for posting this. I will contact my legislators.
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Gun registration, and pretty much all gun control in michigan, was introduced by a ku klux klan influenced legislature in response to minorities using guns to defend themselves.

Specifically, the story of Dr. Sweet:

http://www.google.com/search?q=dr+s...ient=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...f&q=dr+sweet+michigan+gun+control&btnG=Search


When i bought my Xd i took it in for inspectin and everything was the normal
but about a year latter i lost my green slip for it and was told that i should carry this while im CPL so i went back in to get a new green slip for the lost one and guess what they lost there papper work and i had been carrying a unregister gun all that time.Well i would have had my slip upto the time i lost it, but still im sure i would have been in handcuffs for a while anyway.Hope this bill goes through.
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Once your gun is registered, you are NOT obligated to carry the green card. You might as well throw it in the safe and forget about it. The registration info is housed by the state, not the local cop shop.

You don't need another green card so long as it was originally registered.
 
Stuff like this has been introduced before, either to garner political points knowing it won't go anywhere, or dies in committee.

If you want this to proceed, we need a zumbo like outpouring to our legislators in lansing. Contact your reps!
 
i lost my green slip for it and was told that i should carry this while im CPL so i went back in to get a new green slip for the lost one and guess what they lost there papper work and i had been carrying a unregister gun all that time.
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As was said, this is crap, and don't let any cop tell you different. (Some do) Put those green cards away and don't worry about it. You needn't carry those at all.
 
When I was preparing to leave the People's Republic of California in 2002, Michigan wasn't on my list of possible destinations, though the UP will always be my home.

Firearms registration is confiscation on the installment plan.
 
logical you are absolutely right! I used to reside in MI and felt that going into the sherriffs office/county jail with a gun just so some moron could copy down the make, model, caliber, and serial number of my gun was one of the least "safe" things I've ever done!
 
I'm not sure there is anything in this bill that removes the requirement to have your serial number recorded.
 
I currently show no bills sponsored by Mr. Opsommer that have anything to do with this. The Mich. Legislature has a pretty good Sponsor Search on its website, but I see nothing. That means it must still be in commitee, if its been introduced at all.

Y'see, Opsommer's webpage doesn't make any mention of it either. This could just be a quiet talking point to keep the gun owners of his district voting for him. He's a first term, minority party, representing Clinton and Gratiot counties... and I don't think he's on any important commitees.

This could just be voter politics, trying to make himself a nice rural safe seat.

Yeah, I'm a pessimist... Although, I'll send a letter to my legisla-critter as soon as this "bill" materilizes.
 
It would have to be introduced in order to get a hearing.

You know, the weird thing is that I got an email from one of his staffers yesterday talking about the Real ID bill he's going to introduce and its affects on gun owners..but no mention of this bill. Strange.

I think he's sincere. But I wouldn't put it past anyone else to try to force him to introduce this bill by announcing it first.

I'll try to find out.
 
This is the email I got from his guy yesterday:

Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:31:52 -0500
From: "Greg Ostrander" <[email protected]>
Subject: Rep Opsommer


Dear Barbara
I wanted to introduce you to Rep. Opsommer, the new state Rep in the 93rd District. Paul is going to be introducing a resolution on REAL ID that some gun groups have found interest in. At first blush it may not appear to have gun implications, but it does the more you look into it. Civil Libertarians will be particularly offended as well. Both the ACLU and the Libertarian Party are fully in support of repealing REAL ID.

We will also be introducing some gun legislation in the near future. Can you give me the best email address or fax number for such press releases?


Greg
Representative Paul Opsommer (93rd District)
(517) 373-1778
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Thain said:
I currently show no bills sponsored by Mr. Opsommer that have anything to do with this. The Mich. Legislature has a pretty good Sponsor Search on its website, but I see nothing. That means it must still be in commitee, if its been introduced at all.
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Yeah, the site that I posted said that he was getting ready to introduce it. So, according to that source, it has not been introduced yet. I am also suspicious as I can't find any other sources for this either.

Barbara said:
I'm not sure there is anything in this bill that removes the requirement to have your serial number recorded.
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Yeah, that's what I meant about my wait and see attitude. They could just introduce something that removes the need to go down to the PD for the "safety inspection", but still make us register the serial numbers.

Personally, the purchase permit/"safety inspection"/registration crap is the biggest gripe I currently have about Michigan's gun laws.

Barbara said:
I think he's sincere. But I wouldn't put it past anyone else to try to force him to introduce this bill by announcing it first.

I'll try to find out.
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I'd appreciate hearing anything that you find out Barbara. :)

Chris
 
which reminds me.... i gotta get the lil smitty to the sheriff's office to have it "registered" err i mean "inspected"
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This just feels like a piece of feel good legislation. Will only remove the so called "safety inspection". But a handgun purchaser shall still need to get a purchase permit and have the police take down a physical description of the firearm: make, model, manufacturer, caliber, serial number as required by the State Police.
 
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