PPK from S & W

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I figure this has been covered a bit before, but I want an updated opinion please. Has anyone purchased one of the S & W ppk's ? I have been salivating over those when at the gun store. I always thought they were cool looking and would be a good candidate for concealed carry. Anything I should know bad about them? Does S & W do a good job on the copy compared to the orginal older Walther? I have the American Rifleman article where they reviewed the S & W model. Sounds good, but is it really?
 
S&w Ppk

I own a prewar ppk and I like it very much. It is in perfect condition so I though I would buy one of the S&W PPK's for a shooter and home defence. Well I took it out to the gun club to try it out. It functioned flawlessly. The complaint I had with it is the extended tang. S&W extended the tang because people have complained about PPK's hammer biting the web of the hand. I never had that problem with my older PPK but some people do I guess. My complaint is the extended tang on the S&W pounds the heck out of the to of my hand. After getting a sore hand, I took it back and traded it in on a Berretta M9. I like the M9 much better.
 
XavierBreath,

I read you article and it matched my own expeerience to a' T'. After discovering the Kahr when it fist came out, the PPK/S was history. If I want to carry 380, my Cold Mustang is half the size of the PPK.

It's 1930s technology, and this is not always a good thing.
 
Mixed feelings...

Just got a PPK for the wife as a CCW but I'm still not sure how I feel about it...

I shot 150 rounds the other day to work it in a bit. The first 100 were fully jacketed Winchester bulk rounds from Wal-Mart. With these, I did not have a single failure to feed/eject/fire. Then I shot 50 rounds of Gold-Dot HP defense rounds. This is when the suck started. The 70+ year old design just cant hang with the HP rounds. Out of every clip used with the HP's, I encountered 2 or 3 failures to feed. The ramp seems pretty steep for anything besides ball ammo. Also, the DA trigger is very heavy... SA is very nice and clean. The slide spring is tight and needs some muscle to fully retract.

Besides that, I like the design... safe trigger drop, easy to conceal, and if all else fails you could likely spill a would-be intruders brain matter with a well placed pistol whip from this hefty little beast. I believe that this gun will "age" well as the parts smooth out over time.

All in all this gun works to fulfill our needs, though it may not fulfill yours. I would not trust my life on this gun loaded with HP's. However it is 100% reliable so far with ball ammo... which I personally prefer in smaller calibers to increase penetration. Just make sure you practice a lot as shot placement is key when using small calibers + jacketed rounds.

As for caliber size... I think that shot placement is more important than bullet size... A .22 in the skull is better than a .44 in the toe.
 
I bought a new PPK/S a few months ago and seem to have broken it in with no failures of any kind, yes even with Gold-Dot and Hydra-Shok HPs. I've never fired an earlier version of this gun, but based on what I've read, S&W fixed the slide bite problem without introducing any new problems.

I fitted some Hogue wood grips and bought a pocket holster and an IWB holster - both Kydex. I plan to write a review once I shoot some ammo with the new grips on, but I can tell you that the only way for me to pocket-carry the PPK is in the pocket of a sturdy jacket or heavy coat - pants pocket or light coat pocket is out of the question - the gun is just too heavy or large. IWB carry is fine with a good belt - the PPK/S is nice and flat and the fact that it's not tiny makes a draw a little easier than with some micro-guns.

I found the recoil initially felt harsh, but I got used to it. Yeah, the DA trigger pull is very heavy, but I got used to that, too. At first I was sure I'd get a trigger job or play with the springs, but now I think I'm going to enjoy the challenge of handling that trigger pull. Also, I like the operating scheme: load / decock / disengage safety / carry with hammer down and safety off. I like it.

Just read Xavier's blog and he's right. Because the PPK is so sweet-looking, people expect it to be a breeze to operate, but it isn't. It takes a bit of strength to load, a lot of strength to replace the slide on the frame when you take it apart and strong fingers to work the trigger. And it kicks a bit. Definitely not a gun for a petite lady or elderly person.
 
KBintheSLC, try the Remington HP's (85gr I think). I've shot a few hundred without any problems.

Because the PPK is so sweet-looking, people expect it to be a breeze to operate, but it isn't. It takes a bit of strength to load, a lot of strength to replace the slide on the frame when you take it apart and strong fingers to work the trigger. And it kicks a bit. Definitely not a gun for a petite lady or elderly person.

Absolutely true, every word. It isn't an easy gun to use, but I am finding personally, the more I shoot it, the more I realize I shoot it better than my 1911, my Star BM, and my .45 Ruger Blackhawk, all of which I have had for over a year.
 
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