sixgunner455
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I can see the sense in it, but I have no pistols that have attachment points for one.
Practicality of a Lanyard
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Futuristic
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Lanyards NEED a Breakaway!
I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet, other than the strangling comment. Most modern lanyards include a seriously necessary component: A BREAKAWAY.
This is just like the breakaway on neck lanyards like you hang your ID or a whistle on. It keeps you from being pulled along with your gun if it gets grabbed in a piece of machinery. Or, if someone strong tries to drag you by your gun.
Most of these Breakaways are tuned to not let go until they are under 85-100 pounds of tension, so they won't let go just because someone is struggling with you for your gun. Once they try to drag you off your feet by it...PING...the lanyard gives way. Same thing if your pistol gets caught in a vehicle that takes off and leaves you behind...
Safety, folks!
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BTW, I am fond of lanyards for open carry, but I insist on a Breakaway.
I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet, other than the strangling comment. Most modern lanyards include a seriously necessary component: A BREAKAWAY.
This is just like the breakaway on neck lanyards like you hang your ID or a whistle on. It keeps you from being pulled along with your gun if it gets grabbed in a piece of machinery. Or, if someone strong tries to drag you by your gun.
Most of these Breakaways are tuned to not let go until they are under 85-100 pounds of tension, so they won't let go just because someone is struggling with you for your gun. Once they try to drag you off your feet by it...PING...the lanyard gives way. Same thing if your pistol gets caught in a vehicle that takes off and leaves you behind...
Safety, folks!
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BTW, I am fond of lanyards for open carry, but I insist on a Breakaway.
ClarkEMyers
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I like the idea perhaps more than the execution but I do have them.
I like the idea perhaps more than the execution but I do have them. Guns and knives both. I agree that a breakaway is wise idea just as it is on a dog's collar or anything that might be hung up - be it on machinery or a fence; fishing line of appropriate test can be used to rig a breakaway on harness gear notice the actual breakaway will depend on knots and doubling the line and such so won't be even close to the rated strength most of the time whether more or less depends.
Similarly many fighting grips on a knife will loop a lanyard so it can be slipped from the thumb given that any tie might be used against the wearer - I hear a voice in the back of my head saying you can't pull it loose so give it back to him (hard and fast).
I like the Mars/Guncrafter style recessed lanyard loop better than the GI - S&A lanyard loop for the 1911 but then again these days it's poptops and twistoffs so bottle openers are obsolete.
Anybody make a case for lanyard loops on magazines?
I like the idea perhaps more than the execution but I do have them. Guns and knives both. I agree that a breakaway is wise idea just as it is on a dog's collar or anything that might be hung up - be it on machinery or a fence; fishing line of appropriate test can be used to rig a breakaway on harness gear notice the actual breakaway will depend on knots and doubling the line and such so won't be even close to the rated strength most of the time whether more or less depends.
Similarly many fighting grips on a knife will loop a lanyard so it can be slipped from the thumb given that any tie might be used against the wearer - I hear a voice in the back of my head saying you can't pull it loose so give it back to him (hard and fast).
I like the Mars/Guncrafter style recessed lanyard loop better than the GI - S&A lanyard loop for the 1911 but then again these days it's poptops and twistoffs so bottle openers are obsolete.
Anybody make a case for lanyard loops on magazines?
I see the point for lanyards on a sidearm.
It would be a nightmare for magazines. Since mags are normally carried on the weak side and passed over, these'll cross-up on first use. When you do a mag reload, they'll twist-up.
Ever tried a tactical reload? Two mags in the same hand at the same time.
It'll never work. I'd rather have to buy new mags rather be killed because my gear is all tangled.
Vern Humphrey
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The original M1911 magazines had a loop on the floorplate. The lanyard was Y-shaped, with one branch running to the lanyard loop on the pistol, the other to the magazine inserted in the magazine well.
The idea seemed to be that after a pistol attack, the trooper would still have at least one magazine in his possession. Good in theory, but in practice it was quickly abandoned.
rcmodel
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Least you didn't have to get down off your horse if you dropped your mag.
The 1911 lanyards kind of went away with the horse cavalry it seems.
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The 1911 lanyards kind of went away with the horse cavalry it seems.
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RoadkingLarry
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They came in real handy for Topside Watches on Submarines. The 1911s had a lanyard, the 870s didn't guess which one went in the drink. La Madallena was so clear you could just make it out in about 50' water if the sun was right before they sent the diver after it.
kir_kenix
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i think that all "combat" handguns need to have a lanyard. its not like they take up any space/weight, so they might as well be present. i personally like the "hollowed out" flush type w/ a crosspin in the recess.
kd7nqb
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Well it sounds like we have finally found something that the brilliant M&P is missing. However glocks are missing them too.
I think it would be a cool option for ATV riding and such.
I think it would be a cool option for ATV riding and such.
Geronimo45
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They're useful for me. One of the very nice things about my 1911.
You see, there is one way to split logs. Force. A big guy can put a lot of force into a swing without much motion. A smaller guy has to do more to get the same effect. I have had my 1911 jump out of the holster. Repeatedly. Yes, it's a GI-ish shoulder rig, not a retention rig... but I was moving enough to throw a full-sized Government Model clear out of the holster. The lanyard kept it from falling in the mud. Probably not too useful for most people... but it couldn't hurt to have it if you work or play close to the drink. If the gun leaves the holster, it won't leave you... of course, most folks here probably won't be moving enough to have that happen. Yes, it can be useful.
You see, there is one way to split logs. Force. A big guy can put a lot of force into a swing without much motion. A smaller guy has to do more to get the same effect. I have had my 1911 jump out of the holster. Repeatedly. Yes, it's a GI-ish shoulder rig, not a retention rig... but I was moving enough to throw a full-sized Government Model clear out of the holster. The lanyard kept it from falling in the mud. Probably not too useful for most people... but it couldn't hurt to have it if you work or play close to the drink. If the gun leaves the holster, it won't leave you... of course, most folks here probably won't be moving enough to have that happen. Yes, it can be useful.
daniel (australia)
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No they aren't. The little hole in the rear of the butt, down near the bottom, is for the lanyard to clip into. They even make the lanyard:
FWIW I like lanyards for many of the reasons set out above: if you are doing active stuff, perhaps on a vehicle, under stress or with distractions of various sorts they stop you losing the sidearm. It is easy enough to do, and embarrassing if not much worse to find the holster empty when you need it. FWIW I prefer to have it looped around the strong side shoulder, but you need an epaulette or something to hold it in place. Otherwise it loops around the head and strong-side arm. Tied to the belt it tends to snag on stuff.
ClarkEMyers
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Jeff Cooper suggested a short wrist attachment for sleeping rough.
Jeff Cooper suggested a short wrist attachment for sleeping rough with a 1911. Myself I'd likely do that with an empty chamber.
Jeff Cooper suggested a short wrist attachment for sleeping rough with a 1911. Myself I'd likely do that with an empty chamber.
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