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Pres appoints Sec Bolton Amb to U.N

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  1. bg

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    When you find out, let me know..
  2. Marshall

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    Good, Kofi Annan is already kissing up. The UN is such a corrupt joke, bout time we have someone in there with some nads.

    Side benefit, dems are pissed. :evil:
     
  3. Yanus

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    You can bet the farm that Iran is taking notice of Bolton's appointment.....
    It looksl like Bush the Younger is taking off the gloves. Any bets as to who bombs Iran first, us or Israel?..............

    Yanus
     
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    Nearly the ideal man for the job.
     
  6. shermacman

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    I have two problems here:
    1) Bolton sounds like the right guy to fix the UN if the UN needed fixing. I don't think the UN needs to be fixed. I think it should be bulldozed. But since that won't happen I will support the President and Bolton.
    2) Why didn't the Republicans demand a vote? Stomp the DemocRATs down, force a show down? Can someone who understands the Senate explain?
     
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    You can't have a vote if the other side is filibustering. It takes 60 votes to invoke cloture and stop the filibuster. The GOP didn't have the votes to do that. The Dems said they wouldn't filibuster IF the GOP gave them all the documents they wanted, answered all their questions and THEN then thought Bolton was a good choice.

    This was probably the only way he was going to get in.

    Gregg
     
  8. Rebar

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    The moral of the story - we need to get at least 60 republicans into the senate next election.
     
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    I don't really know much about Sec Bolton other than what I've seen in the news. Strange thing to me is that many of the ones screaming the loudest about his abuse to underlings are well known for treating their own aides and flunkies like S---!!
     
  10. Henry Bowman

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    Not counting crybaby RINOs like Voinovich. :fire:
     
  11. Fletchette

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    I found it amusing that, after months of searching and interrogation, all the Democrats could really say is that Bolton can at times be forceful, and that some people don't like him. That's it.

    I am looking forward to Bolton ripping into the U.N. (and rightly so!). We definitely DO need someone that is blunt when dealing with the U.N.

    P.S. Are there any IANSA reactions published? Bolton hates those guys... :D
     
  12. Rebar

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    Indeed, him and the rest of the RINOs.

    It might be that, with a solid majority, they won't grandstand like they've been doing, since it won't matter and they won't get the attention they crave.

    Even so, I hope that they are defeated in the primaries by real republicans.
     
  13. RevDisk

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    I extremely dislike the UN forces. I saw them firsthand almost every evil act imaginable, and was not allowed to do anything. Then again, I also didn't overexert myself when the UN forces were getting shelled, bombed or gunned down. It's a juristriction thing, yanno? :D

    However, Bolton seems like a complete twit. Our diplomats need to be like the hungriest, amoral, vicious, sleazy lawyers. Yea, it's nice to know Bolton can blather on. But if we want something done right, can he pull it off? Nope.

    His history of "twisting" intelligence information for his own ends is uh, disturbing. Means you can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth. Trusting him to tell the truth is a bit unwise.


    Plus, I might be mistaken, but is it legal for the President to assign ambassador without consent of Congress? If it is illegal for him to do so... Heh, well... Nice knowing we have a criminal in the White House who doesn't give a flip about the Constitution and US laws.


    Isn't IANSA independent from the UN?
     
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    Rev,

    Clinton appointed a couple of recess ambassadors and I don't recall Teddy complaining.
     
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    From what I've read, Bolton's biggest problem is that he has too much regard for the U.N.
     
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    Isn't IANSA independent from the UN?

    http://www.iansa.org/

    They may claim independence, but I doubt it.
     
  17. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Here is what I like about Bolton - his statement to the UN on July 9, 2001:

     
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    No, no Rev! Clinton is no longer in office!
     
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    That the UN is disfunctional is beyond debate - unless you happen to be some fifth rate politician from a third world country whose only claim to relevancy is that your country sits on valuable natural resources. I also don't understand how our interests are served by subjecting ourselves to the political whims of the UN Security Council. I don't believe that Bolton - or anyone else for that matter - can effect any substantive change that makes the UN relevent to American interests. My vote is pull out and spend the money, time and energy on something that furthers our national interest. Just my .02.
     
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    The recess appointment thing happens alot. The media and opposing party usually don't make such a fuss of it. But since this is Pres. Bush we're talking about, and since the Dems seem to really dislike Bolton, there will alot of screaming and crying about it.

    Some talk show I was listening to on the way home listed the number of recess appointments by previous Presidents. I don't recall the exact numbers but it was something along the lines of -

    Clinton - 180 +\-
    Bush #1 - 90 +\-
    Reagan - 275 +\-
     
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    Constitution of the United States, Article II, section 2:
    According to the Constitutional Research Service:
    • Ronald Reagan: 240 recess appointments, 116 of which were full-time positions,
    • George H.W. Bush: 77, 18 being full-time,
    • William Jefferson Clinton: 140 recess appointments, 95 were full-time postions
    • George W. Bush: 110, 66 full-time, (to date)

    Just as an interesting fact, Theodore Roosevelt once made recess appointments during a period in which the Senate had adjourned for less than one day.

    LawDog
     
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    One of the many attackes against Bolton was that he was rude to his staff and that he ****gasp**** yelled at a subordinate. That was one of the charges disqualifying him to be the UN guy.

    Fact of the matter is Bolton is one hardnosed guy who will go after the UN hammer and tong. I welcome anyone who speaks plainly, clearly, unmistakably and with force and, BTW eats glass and drags his knuckles into conference rooms. I hope Bush through Bolton makes it clear to the UN that in a world where the US's emphasis is creation of "democracy" around the world, the UN is on probation. I hope Bolton tells the UN to shape up or the US will pull support and sponsor the development of a world body in which the necessary qualification for admission will be a functioning republic form of government (didn't say democracy since it will never exist in captivity).

    I think Bolton will be great entertainment.
     
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    Had they given him a vote, they wouldn't have to complain.
     
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    Hmmm... The last time I had a good feeling about our relation to the UN was when Jean Kilpatrick's subordiante Lichtenstein told the UN that if they didn't like the US as a host they were welcome to pack up and leave and the US would wave them off at the dock and bid them a fond farewell.
     
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    If that's a motion, please consider it seconded.

    If there were 75 Republicans in the Senate, they'd still screech and hide under their beds whenever the lowliest representative of the Democratic (sic) party whispered the word "filibuster." 60 Libertarians might get the job done. 60 Republicans are just 60 representatives of the Democratic (sic) party in political drag.
     
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