price check-45/70 siamese mauser

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fellow wants to sell his siamese 45-70 mauser. gun looks to be in great shape. carried more than shot.
any thoughts as to what this might be worth????????
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emmie
 
I believe WA is answering the question "how much is a Siamese mauser worth?" I believe you are asking "how much is a S. Mauser converted to .45-70 worth?"

Depends. How good a conversion is it? Sights? Wood? Barrel? Finish?
With absolutely no idea of what any of these are on the piece in question, assuming it's already been converted to .45-70, I would say somewhere between $300 and $1200. Hard to be much more specific without more info.

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I don't know about the dollar value of a converted military rifle, but for one this extreme, 8 mm rimmed to .45-70; I would not buy it without trying it.

Blue Book is $225 for one with 98% finish in unaltered military configuration.
 
but for one this extreme, 8 mm rimmed to .45-70; I would not buy it without trying it.

Somewhere i got the idea that the siamese Mausers were the old 11mm types??

would like to know, one way or the other...
 
Preacherman, you may just be confused...

Isn't a Mauser too much gun for a Siamese, whatever the caliber?

Perhaps it's iffy for a Russian Blue, and probably a bit light for a Maine Coone, but a Siamese should be just fine. :D

Siamese Mausers properly converted to .45-70 are considered one of the few actions strong enough to withstand a steady diet of Category III .45-70 ammo, the others being the Ruger #1 and #3, and the Browning Hi-Wall. Properly converted is the operative word here. Category III .45-70 ammo is a big leap in ballistic oomph from the Category I ammo intended for use in the old Trapdoor Springfield.

WildAK was alluding to the fact that converted military rifles seldom garner much in the used rifle market, unless there's some provenance attached, ie. vintage Sedgely Springfields, A-Square Hannibals built on U.S. 1917 Enfield actions, etc. Likewise, if it's a conversion done by P.O. Ackley, it's no longer just a collection of military parts.

I've got a Siamese Mauser action, barrel, and Bishop stock that are being assembled into a .45-70 repeater. The original rimmed 8mm Siamese round was close enough in rim dimensions to make the conversion to .45-70 relatively straightforward, with minor modifications to the bolt face and magazine rails, plus the usual bolt welding/forging, etc. Again, properly done, it makes a hard-hitting repeater that can handle the stoutest of .45-70 loads. I plan on using mine for dangerous game some day in the future.

Hard nailing down a price on that one. Like JShirley said, it depends on how nice a conversion it is. Fancy wood, Belgian or deep rust bluing, fit, finish, etc.
 
My point is this...once a military rifle is bubbaized, its worth at max $100...

Now if a converted military rifel has provenance, as G98 says, its worth more. Right here in an Alaskan pawn shop I know of an Ackly 375 built on an Enfield...they got it tagged for about $750...

A Siamese Mauser, properly (repeat properly) converted by a gunsmith with experience (repeat experience) in converting Siamese Mausers to 45/70 is safe. An unkown coversion is not.

Its not cheap also.


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