Price check Ruger 556E/ relialbility
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I just saw one last week at a LGS new for $1050. I'd wait and shop around, unless you want to make sure you get one in a reasonable time frame, then pay the $200 premium fee. I don't own one but from what I've heard from people who do they are great guns.
I thought it might be a little high but wasnt sure. Maybe i will see if he will throw in some sights for that price. Then it may not be to out of line. Before all this madness I had decided on either a Sig 516 or a Stag 3G. Unfortianatly i dont hnow anything about the AR type platform and was overwhealmed by all the choices. But at the time (and still) i dont thing i want a basic (M and P sport type). Even though i have seen a couple of them just a touch over $700 which i didnt think was to bad either.
hapidogbreath
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I have a Ruger 556 piston gun and It Runs Great! Came with Troy BUS a case and 3 mags. Love it.
$1250 and no sights, I'd pass.
Quentin
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I'd pass on the Ruger. Piston ARs tend to cost more than standard DI ARs. Unless you know exactly why you want a piston, then for normal use you can get a lot more rifle for the money with DI.
Quentin.. I was under the impression that piston guns are better guns not just more expessive. Am I wrong on that??. As far as use it will be for target/3 gun for my self. I have way more then enough hunting guns so that is not what i am looking for.
Ford8nr...(great tractor by the way, got one with a mower to go with the old grean and red I own too)..I wasnt trying to say no on the M and P it is i just want an AR with a foward assist and dust cover and also quad rail or something of the sort. I just figued why get a M and P (even the model with assist and dust cover) and then dump $100 plus to put a quad on it. Do they make a model that would fit what i am looking for their??. I do love smith products, have a lot of them in my safe.
I guess what I am saying is the Stag 3G, Rugger 556E, Sig 516 is the look I am going for. If piston guns will do find what would you recomened.
Ford8nr...(great tractor by the way, got one with a mower to go with the old grean and red I own too)..I wasnt trying to say no on the M and P it is i just want an AR with a foward assist and dust cover and also quad rail or something of the sort. I just figued why get a M and P (even the model with assist and dust cover) and then dump $100 plus to put a quad on it. Do they make a model that would fit what i am looking for their??. I do love smith products, have a lot of them in my safe.
I guess what I am saying is the Stag 3G, Rugger 556E, Sig 516 is the look I am going for. If piston guns will do find what would you recomened.
Not trying to restart the debate about piston vs DI, here is how I look at it:
None of the piston guns use interchangeable parts that I know of. A piston from one maker may not fit the rifle of another and so forth.
I know people say they run cooler and cleaner. Ok and? I will never be in a fire fight or run full auto and even running my AR hard at a match I have never had a heat issue. I shoot 1600+ rounds in a season, not the highest round count ever I know. I clean my AR in the middle of the season and again at the end and never has it been a long or difficult process . It takes longer to clean the piston and gas nut on my FAL than my entire DI AR.
To my mind the gas piston AR is a solution looking for a problem. They are a bit heavier, more expensive and parts may be harder to find is something were to break. I just don't see an upside. But if you really want one by all means get one, I imagine you will be happy and it is after all your money.
None of the piston guns use interchangeable parts that I know of. A piston from one maker may not fit the rifle of another and so forth.
I know people say they run cooler and cleaner. Ok and? I will never be in a fire fight or run full auto and even running my AR hard at a match I have never had a heat issue. I shoot 1600+ rounds in a season, not the highest round count ever I know. I clean my AR in the middle of the season and again at the end and never has it been a long or difficult process . It takes longer to clean the piston and gas nut on my FAL than my entire DI AR.
To my mind the gas piston AR is a solution looking for a problem. They are a bit heavier, more expensive and parts may be harder to find is something were to break. I just don't see an upside. But if you really want one by all means get one, I imagine you will be happy and it is after all your money.
Thanks Robert...this I did not know. I dont wajt to debate or argue it either. Like i said just looking for the best bang for the buck. Even at $700 it is still a lot of money compaired to a AK... Which i have heard it a very reliable gun..but you just cant find them for $300 right now. My boy is very sports orianted. He was born with a condition that the dr didnt want him to play but wasnt going to stop him. Then after he got his second concussion mom and me said no more. So a differnet sport we are gunna do. But just my luck the sport he wants to do is gunna cost good money...lol
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Personally, I avoided the piston AR thing entirely. Every piston system out there is unique and parts are not interchangeable. Why buy a version of a proven reliable system that doesn't actually function like the type that's been in service for 40 years?
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Fifty year shooter here but only an AR owner for five months. Not knowing much about them (still don't) I grabbed the Ruger SR-556E mostly because it is a Ruger and my M1A is a piston gun.
So, I am no authority here but I find nothing about this rifle that I dislike. Accurate, dependable and well made, I'm cool with that.
Dan
So, I am no authority here but I find nothing about this rifle that I dislike. Accurate, dependable and well made, I'm cool with that.
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SabbathWolf
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Just because something has been in service for 40 years, that doesn't always make it the best choice for everybody.
The DI M16 / M4 has NEVER been proved 100% reliable at all. That's why one of the very first things you learn as a new recruit is how to perform S.P.O.R.T.S.
It's also the reason why the military keeps having new trials and tests for better designs.
To me, it just depends on what your overall use for the weapon will be.
Competition, home defense, casual paper punching, etc...
Also, it will also depend on whether or not you have a squad or platoon of guys still laying down fire while you fix your malfunction....or will you most likely be all alone.
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I've been considering the 556C version pretty hard.I have a Ruger 556 piston gun and It Runs Great! Came with Troy BUS a case and 3 mags. Love it.
Which version do you have?
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Another point for me is can I buy spares for the unique parts from Ruger?
Being forced to send a rifle back if I break or loose a gas regulator or piston would be a deal breaker for me.
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Being forced to send a rifle back if I break or loose a gas regulator or piston would be a deal breaker for me.
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bergmen
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Yes, but every single of the more than 30 firearms I own (outside of an AR) are completely unique in nature. They all have to have manufacturer and model specific parts for repair or replacement. That hasn't kept me from getting any of these over the past 50 years.
Dan
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Exactly.
It's not like I can call Smith & Wesson to get parts for my Savage bolt rifle either.
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I agree that outside of the ARs and AKs you have to go back to the manufacturer for support.
But FN's part department is willing to sell me spare extractors and firing pins. Ruger (at least historically) has required the complete firearm be shipped back for parts replacement. And they wouldn't sell spares.
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But FN's part department is willing to sell me spare extractors and firing pins. Ruger (at least historically) has required the complete firearm be shipped back for parts replacement. And they wouldn't sell spares.
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SabbathWolf
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To an extent, you're absolutely right.
But there are exceptions too.
Ruger has sent me spare replacement parts in the past with zero trouble at all.
But....it may indeed just depend on "what" specific parts you are asking for.
I guess if the OP is really that concerned about this specific issue, he could contact Ruger ahead of time and see what they will "not" send out I guess.
The bright side is that Ruger's lower receiver is probably just standard AR parts. "DO NOT" quote me on this however, because I'm not that sure about that either. I guess THAT would be a great question to ask as well.
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