Primed cases?

[TomADC]

How loud are primed empty cases, was thinking of putting my Kirst kit in my 8 inch Pietta 1858 and seeing if it will fire the 5 primed cases. Was going to do this in my backyard or the shed I reload in. Of course I could drive to a remote area (hard to find here) and see if there is a difference in the two 1858's.

 

[rcmodel]

Pretty load. About like a .22 RF.

But you may have a problem doing it.
No idea how that will work with a conversion, but it won't work with a normal cartridge revolver.

Revolver primers alone will back out of the cases and lock the cylinder from turning unless you drill out the flash-holes oversize to keep the pressure down so they don't back out.

A normal load with a bullet has chamber pressure to slam the case back and re-seat the primer in the case every shot.

rc

 

[TomADC]

Well that clears that up, need to drive out to the range.

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

Sorry I could not answer sooner. Next time, fold up an old towel and put in on the floor. Jam the muzzle of the gun against the towel. Pull the trigger. There will just be a muffled pop, and a burn mark on the towel.

Yes, the primer may back out and cause difficulty cycling the cylinder. If you just load one chamber at a time and fire it without loading any more rounds in you will probably be able to rotate the cylinder to get the 'fired case' out.

Done it lots of times. Works with a rifle too.

 

[TomADC]

Driftwood, I may just take five cases drill out the primer hole to .125 and give that a try.

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Just be sure that if you drill out the flash holes you do not use that brass in live ammunition. Flash holes are the size they are for a reason. Drilling them out can allow too much pressure into the primer.

 

[Foto Joe]

Years ago a friend of mine bought a new to him Italian over/under shotgun. He was curious as to which barrel fired first as the markings on the selector were non-existant. He had brought it over to my house to get the answer to his question and we were standing in my garage with the door open (no cars). I handed him two primed 12ga shells and told him to drop 'em into the tubes, close the gun and pull the trigger, which ever primer went off that was the primary barrel for the way the switch was set.

It was mean and I should have handed him ear plugs but instead I simply stepped out of the garage and onto the driveway.

Good thing they were only primed cases or he might have turned the other one on me.

 

[TomADC]

Just be sure that if you drill out the flash holes you do not use that brass in live ammunition. Flash holes are the size they are for a reason. Drilling them out can allow too much pressure into the primer.

I understand, I have a couple 1000 cases so I'll use these and toss them.
But thanks for the remember.

 

[TomADC]

BTW hindsite being 20-20 I probably could have shot them off last night while all the nuts around me were shooting their guns of during the 4th's fireworks.
I always bring the dog in on the 4th around 9 PM the gun shots scare him.

 

[kBob]

Does the Kirst cylinder have seperate firing pins for each chamber? If so you may not need to drill the cases out.

I have a set of brass I dilled out to use for parafin practice loads. I keep them in sepperate well marked boxes. I also knotched the rims on the .38 SPL and .45ACP so they would stand out if I dropped them. Marked other calibers with a permenant marker.

When I was teaching in "smallville" I would shoot wax loads in my garage as it was difficult to get to a range and the wax loads wear much quieter than normal ammo. I used the wax loads mostly to practice presentation and first shot from concealment at close range. I think it rather disturbed some of the kids when they found out I shot action style shooting after one student and his dad appeared at an IPSC match I went to.

-kBob

 

[TomADC]

This Kirst kit has only one firing pin.

 

[Pulp]

I wouldn't think just a primer would require drilling. A fully loaded blank yes, but a primer only load??
I've popped a few in my Uberti SAA without problems.

 

[RaceM]

I bust primers all the time to check firing pin strike (commercial ammo with bullet pulled and no powder). No backing out of primers to date, and not that loud, about a 22 rifle level.