Primer choice for M1 Garand

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SLED = Single Load Enhanced Device.

It allows one to load one round at a time and it acts as if the round is being fed from the magazine. When stripping a round from the magazine, the bolt movement is restricted as compared to letting it slam home on a round manually inserted in the chamber.

With the enbloc clip fed Garand, it is difficult to load a clip with one round in it. The Garand SLED is a modified clip that sits in the magazine. One round can be inserted in the SLED and then chambered as normal.

There are SLEDs available for other semi-auto rifles. They differe in design from the Garand's but do the same thing.

There are differing opinions on the need and use of SLEDs. When I shot Service Rifle competition, I did use one in both my M1s and AR-15s. Many folks do not.

Hope this helps.
 
Thanks. My initial thought would be to ask why it would be necessary since I just load one round in an AR mag and chamber as usual then I realized, as you mentioned, that the Enbloc clip doesn't allow for it. Wouldn't my current procedure of riding the bolt back halfway before releasing it also work just as well as a SLED?
 
Wouldn't my current procedure of riding the bolt back halfway before releasing it also work just as well as a SLED?

Yes, this is how many folks single load their Garands.

As I said, there are many differing opinions on the use of a Garand SLED.

I prefer using a SLED. You snap a round into the SLED, pull the op rod back to release it and chamber the round. Down side is you have to remember to remove the SLED when going back to magazine fed rounds. I also liked using a two round clip for the rapid fire stages but many do not.

What ever you are comfortable with as long as you know the limitations of each single load method.

Search the web, you can find drawings on how to make your own Garand SLED from and an enbloc clip. Easy to do with tools most folks have in their tool box.

But the commercial ones are pretty inexpensive.
 
I'll look into the SLED. I didn't want to spend a lot but you mentioned that they're pretty inexpensive. Anything to take human error out of the equation.

As I bookmarked this discussion, I had to chuckle when I thought of a couple days ago when my wife took my iPad to add something and from another room I heard "For God's sakes, all you have is gun stuff on your iPad". Haha. She's absolutely right.
 
Thanks. My initial thought would be to ask why it would be necessary since I just load one round in an AR mag and chamber as usual then I realized, as you mentioned, that the Enbloc clip doesn't allow for it. Wouldn't my current procedure of riding the bolt back halfway before releasing it also work just as well as a SLED?

I frequently lower my Garand bolt half way, and then get my hand out of the way in case it slamfires.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=264020

While the M1 and M14/M1A do have the "web", slam fires are still possible and can be catastrophic. I was lucky enough to come through one with a GI Springfield M1 from the DCM about 20 years ago using LC 69 issue ammo. The rifle held together for the most part, but did fire out of battery on loading a single round in slow fire. If it had been in a rapid fire string, I most likely would not be typing this right now. The rear of the receiver from just aft of the serial number was blown off and the stock cracked with a big chunk blown out of it. The bolt was jammed into the back of the receiver and would not come forward. The op rod handle ripped the palm of my hand open, and you could read the head stamp of the case in reverse on my palm. The recovered empty case was about an inch long. Never did find the rear of the receiver. The DCM took the rifle back and never did tell me what they determined went wrong. They replaced it with a brand new, and I mean, brand new, never issued H&R.

If you shoot either the M1 or M14, I would highly suggest you either use a SLED with the M1 or load single rounds from the mag on the M1A. Reloads should use the harder primers, like CCI, and I check mine with a seating gage. ”

The safest reloading technique for an AR is to only load from the magazine. Though it may have been lost in the total volume that I wrote, all, and I mean all, semi auto rifle mechanisms with free floating firing pins have a posted slamfire account on the web. The primary difference between those designs, and the Garand mechanism, is that the Garand mechanism slamfires inbattery and out of battery. AR’s slamfire, but the firing is positively retracted until the lugs start to go into battery. It used to be that you could load your AR15 on the shooting stool in NRA competition. During the standing stage, I used to see AR shooters resting their AR with the muzzle of the rifle on the stool, drop a round in the chamber and hit the bolt release. Enough AR’s slamfired with the round going the stool that now it is forbidden to rest a loaded rifle on the stool or foot. See Rule 10.1.6 . I guess someone also shot themselves through the foot! For a time there was a rule that if you put a round within ten feet of the firing line you would be evicted from the match. If you had just blown the front of your foot off, I guess they dragged you from the firing line. I had a slamfire in my AR during standing, and so did my scorer when it was his turn to shoot!. He was using Federal Match in his AR, I was using those thin skinned brass WSR. Both of us have changed our standing reloading technique: we drop the round in the chamber and lower the bolt half way with the charging rod before letting go. I stopped using Winchester WSR and use CCI #41’s. I only load from the magazine for rapid fire sighters, unfortunately there is not much I can do slow fire prone. There I toss a round in the chamber and hit the bolt release. If it goes off at least the bullet will travel 600 yards before hitting anything. These mechanisms, like all mechanisms with free floating firing pins, you should always be cognizant that the weapon could discharge because of a sensitive primer. Very rare, but it happens.
 
I would never use any federal primer on a garand. If the firing pin even taps it, it will ignite. Not saying you would consider it just wanted to put it out there.
 
It must be understood that anything incidentally contacting the primer can cause cartridge ignition. This is due to the unpredictability of primers. It is fortunate that primers are as predictable as they are, but anyone who has ever shot enough ammunition can attest, you will run across the occasional dud primer. A dud primer is an overly insensitive primer and is very obvious by the fact it did not ignite. The overly sensitive primer is quite a bit more subtle in operation and as long as all primers go bang, just how do you sort out sensitive primers from normal primers? You can’t do that by a visual inspection. It is also not obvious but primers vary in sensitivity by brand, by lot, and within the lot. In the book: The Grand Old Lady of No Man's Land: The Vickers Machinegun there is an interesting section about Vickers aircraft machine guns.. To raise the cyclic rate the British lightened the firing pin, but that caused misfires as the firing pin now had less kinetic energy. To fix that, the Brits used less sensitive primers, but now they had rounds ignite out of battery as the primers were being impacted within the mechanism (by something) before the breech was locked. It required a hardware change in the feed mechanism to fix that. It appears that machine gunners are very familiar with out of battery explosions:

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=145836
Any weapon with a floating firing pin, ie a firing pin that is not held back for the bolt face by use of a spring or some other mechanical device should use hard primers. CCI has a small primer called the 5.56. It is hard.

Chamber a round in your AR/M16 next time you are at the range and then unload that round. You will see a mark on the primer where the firing pin bounced.

Most all rifle caliber open bolt machineguns use a locking mechanism of one type or another so that in normal operation they cannot slam fire before the bolt is in the securely locked position. However firing pins break, firing pins jam in the out or fired position and most commonly cases separate leaving the case neck of the previous round in the chamber and in some weapons designs this can lead to a round firing out of battery. This type of a detonation can be anything from a minor irritation to destruction of expensive parts and injury to the shooter. I have experienced out of battery detonations in M60s, MG34s, MG42 and 1919A4s. Injuries were mainly cuts from brass case fragments and minor 1st degree powder burns. These are all pretty strong guns and damage to the guns varied from none to having to replace a couple of top covers.

Never use soft primers in any machinegun and especially belt feds.

ARs and M16 explode spectacularly. It is quite a sight. Serious injuries are quite rare with the AR/M16 although I can't explain why as in a lot of cases the upper seems to pretty well vaporize.

The Garand mechanism is an early semi automatic weapon design. It is my opinion that later mechanisms incorporated more thought into preventing incidental firing pin contact with the primer prior to lug engagement. As an example, AR mechanisms fully retract the firing pin until cam down. This is a very positive means of preventing firing pin initiated out of battery slamfires. If the firing pin is fully behind the bolt face till lug engagement, the primer is 100% protected from incidental contact with the firing pin. Credible out of battery slamfire incidents in AR’s are very rare. Armalite provides extensive large print warnings not to remove the firing pin spring in their AR10 actions. Technical Note 10: Prevention of Slamfires explicitly states that the firing pin spring reduces the inertial impact energy to a very safe level and almost always cures slamfires. http://www.armalite.com/images/Tech Notes\2015\Tech Note 10, Prevention of Slamfires 981226.pdf I don’t believe their statement that Government and commercial large rifle primers are not “Hardened” in the same way as the Government #41 primer. (Based on talks with CCI, commercial large primers are more sensitive than the #34 primer) Armalite is correct that free floating firing pins will lightly impact a cartridge primer and, very rarely, cause the primer to ignite. Their technical bulletin advises to always feed from the magazine, because the friction of stripping a round from the magazine slows the bolt, and to never, ever, remove the firing pin spring. In Technical Note 59: AR-10(T) Addendum to USMC M16A2 Technical Manual there is a picture of the Armalite spring on a firing pin and the large print notice: ”WARNING: THE FIRING PIN SPRING IS AN IMPORTANT SAFETY DEVICE AND MUST NOT LOOSE, REMOVED, OR LOST” From Armalite Operator’s Manual http://usarmorment.com/pdf/AR10M15OperatorsManual.pdf
The AR-10 firing pin spring reduces the firing pin mark on the primer of a chambered cartridge that is chararacteristic of M-16 type rifles, and the “slamfire” possible with overly sensitive primers”. “THE FIRING PIN SPRING IS AN IMPORTANT SAFETY DEVICE AND MUST NOT BE LOOSE, REVERSED, REVOVED, OR LOST.”
Simonov’s SKS and the Fabrique Nationale FAL were extremely hard to find in the US prior to the Regan administration, but since then they were imported in mass quantities . Both are examples of designs that use a titling breech face to reduce the possibility of an out of battery slamfire. In both of these designs the bolt face is out of perpendicular from the case head until the bolt is in battery. This keeps the firing pin out of parallel with primer until the bolt faces rises as the bolt goes into battery. Both of these rifles have free floating firing pins, the FAL has a firing pin spring to reduce the chance of a slamfire and so do some models of Russian SKS’s. I never saw a Chinese SKS that had a firing pin spring and there are plenty of in-battery slamfires reports, most particularly the SKS, due to firing pin inertia with either of these models. Murray’s sells a SKS firing pin spring to reduce firing pin impact on bolt closure. http://www.murraysguns.com/sksown.htm. There are a few firearm designs which don’t manually retract the firing pin and the SKS and FAL are among them. For these designs it is safety critical to keep the firing pin channel clean to prevent the firing pin from being wedged in a forward position. Here, Murray performs an insanely risky test with an SKS. He has wedged the firing pin forward and the gun fires until the rifle is empty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj3QtnUWCwQ The primary reason the rifle does not have an out of battery slamfire is due to the titling breech face design of the mechanism, but given a long enough firing pin, I don’t see any reason why an out of battery slamfire could not happen. Here is a video of an SKS which the owner claims is well maintained and it slamfires in battery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPn97vz0Vyw

I am impressed with the HK roller bolt actions. The primary concern of the German designers was to create a rifle that could be quickly and inexpensively mass produced, a goal they achieved, and they also produced an easy to maintain and safe rifle. I have never heard of any in battery or out of battery slamfire events in the roller bolts and I am of the opinion that a firing pin induced out of battery slamfire is totally impossible in this design. The firing pin absolutely cannot move forward of the breech face until the rollers are in battery:

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These are pictures of the bolt mechanism of my PTR 91, you can see the firing pin spring, “connecting rod” and bolt.

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The firing pin spring is very strong, much stronger than I have found on any of the actions I own. To call this firing pin “free floating” is almost an oxymoron as spring tension must keep the firing pin in place regardless of firing pin inertia.

Of the military actions on the market, the Garand mechanism has the most reports of slamfires. One reason has to be the hundreds of thousands of Garands that have been imported and are now in civilian hands. Another reason is that the Garand action has a long free floating firing pin. This mechanism does not positively hold the firing pin throughout the feed cycle and the firing pin is always in line with the centerline of the cartridge case. Due to these characteristics the Garand mechanism will not only slamfire in battery, but out of battery. I am of the opinion that the US Army controlled slamfire rate in the Garand (and M14) by specifying a relatively insensitive primer. I am of the opinion this was how most militaries controlled slamfires in their issue rifles: primer insensitivity. On page 58 of the April 2011 Guns Magazine Mike Venturino reports having a in battery slamfire in a K43 and SVT40 rifle with standard primers. These slamfires ended when he used #34 primers.


I am a fan of the Garand mechanism and regularly shoot the things in practice, and less regularly, shoot the things in Highpower Competition. Recently I shot my Super Match M1a in an XTC match and I shot a 184 prone slow fire. This, if you happen to know, is not a High Master score, and it will take a while for the hurt to go away before I waste another day, and my score, shooting one of these relics in competition. I did earn my Distinguished Rifleman Badge with an M1a, so once a upon a time I could shoot the things straight; maybe that time has passed. Early in XTC competition I had an out of battery slamfire, during sitting rapid fire prone, with a Garand. The last round in the clip went off out of battery. Incidentally all rounds were on target. ! It has been decades, but I remember the stock was split through from the upper ferrule through the pistol grip, the elevation knob was peeled off. I think I had an operating rod dismount. There were more pieces and things taken off but I don’t remember anymore. From the pitting on my glasses, I am convinced that that if I had not been wearing shooting glasses, it is likely I would have been blinded to some degree. There was the tiniest bit of lug engagement on the right lug and that kept the back of the receiver from being knocked off. The top of right receiver seat showed an indentation which came from the bottom of the bolt lug. The tiny amount of lug engagement held for a while, but as pressure increased, the metal gave way. Further back on the rail there were gouges as the bolt lug dug in until it finally broke free. I was using Federal Match 210M primers. Lots of shooters were using Federal 210M primers. Commercial manufactures know the value of names: if you were a new match shooter and a manufacturer stamped “match” on a component, it must be better than something without the name “Match”, or “Sniper”, or “Extreme”. The last two names were not in common use until recently, but regardless, they sell product. At the time there was no such thing as primer sensitivity. A primer was a primer, match primers were of course better primers, and all primers ignited predictably with the same amount of force. The only allowed causes of slamfires were “high primers and worn out receiver bridges”. Notice, the only allowed causes were thing attributable to shooter negligence, the design was assumed to be perfect. I know my Garand receiver bridge was fine as the barreled action was used again as a match rifle. This first slamfire made a big impression on me and I discussed this event with the gunsmith who barreled my rifle. He had good advice about sizing practices: ensure that the case is smaller than the chamber. I was provided reamer cut gages which were identical in size to the rifle chamber. I still use these gages to ensure that sized cases are not an interference fit in my 30-06 chambers. After the first incident I absolutely ensured that all of my primer pockets were deeply reamed to depth, and that every primer was hand seated and inspected to ensure that it was below the case head. I had my suspicions that my lot of Federal primers were a bit sensitive and had been increasingly using WLR primed brass , but I still had some brass primed with the same lot of Federal 210M primers and I used that to zero in a new 30-06 match Garand. After all, conventional wisdom was that only high primers and a worn out receiver bridge caused slamfires . Every metal part was as new as could be found for surplus rifle parts. The receiver was original finish and hardly any wear, same for the bolt, operating rod, etc. This brass had been sized in a Bonanza match sizing die, I had set up the die with case gages, so I knew the case dimensions from shoulder to base were not over length, and I had aggressively reamed the pockets extra deep. I had seated every primer by hand and had inspected each case to verify that all primers were below the case head. In testing the new rifle, firing from the clip, the action slamfired out of battery, blowing the receiver heel into my face. Again I was wearing shooting glasses but the receiver heel shattered the right lens. The event was so fast that it was basically incomprehensible at the time. I remember a roar, my body, face, being moved backwards, a feeling as though a stream of burning hot sand was flowing against my face. After the blast I looked down, saw blood dribbling down on the bench and shattered glass below, and I was physically numbed. Panicked, I ran over to my truck and looked in a rear view mirror to see if I still had a face. It was very frightening until I figured out that I was OK. I was bleeding from all sorts of little pock marks from brass and powder particles. It was as if someone had stabbed my face with a fork a couple of hundred times. At medical checkups Doctors could see powder and brass particles embedded in my facial skin. I am grateful for the protection that the glasses gave me as again, I could have been blinded. There were pit marks in the intact lens.

After this second event, enough though all the “smart guys” said only high primers and a worn out receiver bridge caused slamfires, and even though that was the conventional wisdom of the whole shooting community, I decided for myself that the smart guys were idiots and conventional wisdom was bunk. My contempt for those “smart guys” has only increased over the years and so has my anger against those who knowingly created and perpetuated this particular lie.
 
From the earliest period in the Garand we have good evidence that the receiver bridge was never effective in preventing slamfires. The Army lightened the early Garand firing pin, just as they did the M16 firing pin, and the only plausible reason for this is because they were having slamfires. It adds cost to mill out material and makes the midsection of the firing pin susceptible to breakage. Making the 30-06 primer less sensitive would have cured the in battery slamfire issue, but there were other weapons in inventory using 30-06 cartridges. If the Army made the large rifle primer less sensitive, that could have created failures to fire in BAR’s, M1919’s, 03 Springfields. Maybe the Lewis Guns were still in inventory. The path of least resistance was to reduce the kinetic energy of the firing pin by reducing its weight.

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The bottom firing pin is from a M1 Carbine. As the first of its type, the Army was able to specify a relatively insensitive primer for the mechanism and thus the firing pin was not scalloped to reduce weight. This is a picture of the rare round Garand firing pin. So rare they sold for $100.00 apiece at Orion7, and they sold out so fast that I was unable to purchase one.


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Even with “mil spec” primers, some slamfires must have occurred, though whatever safety reports were generated have not, and will not be released to the public. Safety incident reports are not even shared within the Army, only those Safety and Law Enforcement who have a valid reason are granted access. If you have not seen these reports, it is because you don’t have a need to know. Army leadership decides who has a need to know, it is not your decision regardless of how curious you might be. The Garand mechanism was used by other nations and it is instructive that the Italians added a firing pin spring to the bolts of their Garand based BM 59 rifles. Obviously they had experienced slamfires in their Garands previous to designing this mechanism.


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I am of the opinion that the receiver bridge simply holds the back of the bolt up and cams the firing pin out of the primer pocket during extraction. I am dubious as to the effectiveness of the thing in preventing slamfires. Generations of shooters have taught to worship it as a “safety bridge” but I think the whole religion is a lie, was known to be a lie when it was created, and I don’t trust receiver bridges to be anything but a firing pin cam.
The proper primer to use in military weapons is the primer that the Military specified for the weapon. For the Garand, M1a, I can’t say it any better than what is to be found in the Springfield Armory Manual, page 4
www.springfield-armory.com/download.php?asset=M1AManual.pdf

Ammunition

The M1A is designed and built to specifications to shoot standard factory military 7.62 NATO ammunition. The specifications for standard military ammunition include harder primers to withstand the slight indentation from the firing pin when the bolt chambers a cartridge. This slight indentation is normal. The use of civilian ammunition with more sensitive primers or hand loads with commercial primers and/or improperly seated primers increase the risk of primer detonation when the bolt slams forward. This unexpected "slam fire" can occur even if the trigger is not being pulled and if the safety is on. Use of military specification ammunition will help avoid this.

Every shooter should use extreme caution when loading this or any other firearm. See page 17 for instructions on proper loading to help avoid a "slam fire". Also see enclosed article on “Slam Fire” written by Wayne Faatz


It is my opinion, based on research of periodicals, DTIC documents, that in-house Army expertise on all things firearms and ammunition was at its peak till the late 60’s. An aggressive campaign to outsource and shutter Government design and manufacturing facilities was initially started by Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. Over time the Government lost its in-house cartridge designers, manufacturing facilities, firearms design and manufacturing. Regardless of what they call themselves, the Government no longer has real technical expertise in firearms design, manufacture, or cartridge design and manufacture. The real value added functions have been outsourced and what in-house “technical experts” the Government has are technical Contract Experts. These guys are experts in writing, evaluating, awarding, overseeing contracts. The Government does not design or build anything, it hires Contractors to do all the thinking, designing, and making. Government management oversight is totally woeful and inadequate as many Technical Managers really don’t know what they are doing, often don’t care, and even if they did, don’t have any real authority over their Contractors. Only Congress can correct and cancel a misbehaving contractor. The history of Government Procurement is a long litany of cost, schedule, overruns and of the purchase of equipment that fails once it reaches the field. There was a time when the Army had people who could design a Garand , M14, or a M60 machine gun, and the ammunition to fit, but not anymore. However, when it did come to the Garand, M14, the in-house technical expertise was at its highest, and the 34 primer was the primer selected, because of its characteristics, as the best choice for these mechanisms. Reaching back into history, all you have to do is search DTIC and you will find references, such as on page 4-69 of the "Report of the M16 Review Panel Appendix 4 Appendix 4 Ammunition Development Program"
You can find this at http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/index.html.

The Army was having all sorts of issues, slamfires, primer sensitivity, etc, with the early M16’s. The quote from the primer sensitivity section was
“Contrary to the requirements for 7.62 mm ammunition, which specifies that the FA34 primer is mandatory, no attempt has been made to standardize on type of primer for 5.56 mm ammunition”.

A series of nine reports were written in 1959, by Reed Donnard, all of them titled : “The Standardization of Lead Styphnate primers, Priming mixtures and process” Report # 1 - 9 These reports dealt with the industry/Government joint development venture where Industry and Government developed a non corrosive primer for use in Army/AF/Navy applications. These reports describe tests, compositions, and weapon characteristics. I never found the weapon characteristic report, that would have been interesting as I am sure they measured the kinetic energy of the firing pin impact on a number of weapon systems. The small arms primer that came out of this Government/Industry joint venture has a specific primer cake composition and a specific sensitivity requirement which is matched to the weapons of the period.

This is the top level drawing for the #34 primer:

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The small arms primer mix that came out of this effort is the FA 956 mix,
PATR 2700 Encyclopedia of Explosives Vol 8 gives the composition

FA 956
Lead Styphanate 37.7 +/- 5%
Tetracene 4.0 +/- 1%
Barium Nitrate 32.0 +/- 5%
Antimony Sulfide 15.0 +/- 2%
Aluminum Powder 7.0 +/- 1%
PETN 5.0 +/- 1%
Gum Arabic 0.2%

There are plenty of primer compositions for there are many applications for primers other than small arms. This is a list of military priming mixtures, FA 70 is the old corrosive 30 cal primer, FA 90 was the corrosive 50 cal primer. I was able to identify PA101 as a fuse primer composition. All of the compositions to the right of FA90 are more sensitive than rifle primer compositions, so these are probably used on a variety of explosive or propellant devices.

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This is a neat chart. The Government is looking for a lead free primer and this chart compares impact energies and ignition probabilities of red phosphors primer mix and the lead styphnate.

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Primer compound is mixed wet and kept wet. George Frost makes the claim that primers are packed wet and that once dry, are extremely dangerous. Somewhere in the book he says that sticking your head beyond the safety barrier to look at the primer shakers is tantamount to committing suicide.

There are several DTIC sources which are very educational on the subject of primers. A good one is “Percussion Primers Design Requirements , Rev A 1976, and there is a later reversion of this same document. Another outstanding, and I mean really outstanding source is the Encyclopedia of Explosives PATR 2700 1978. This document came out of Picatinny Arsenal. Basically nothing of significant depth and knowledge appears after the 1970’s. I surmise that all the real in-house legacy technical expertise within the Government had retired and after 1980 what you see in the system as “technical reports” are in actuality briefings or reports created by Support Contractors. These are very “fluffy” as the in-house Government Managers don’t know enough to ask deep, relevant, or penetrating questions.

The absolute best reference I have found on primers, and ammunition making, is the NRA book Ammunition Making by George Frost. I bought mine in 1991 and unfortunately, this book is out of print. This book actually tells you how to make every chemical used in primer mix and how to mix it all up into primer cake. This is not something that I recommend anyone does, but the knowledge of the chemistry and processes is very interesting. On page 60 of the book, Mr Frost shows the average cup thickness of various primers, and the military small rifle primer is a thicker cup. Curiously he does not show the thicknesses of the military large rifle cup. Starting on page 102 is an excellent section on Primer Sensitivity. It is my recollection that a CCI Quality Engineer told me that the #34 primer has an H bar two inches higher than their commercial primer.

You would expect that each lot of primers would have a different sensitivity as some constituents can vary by up to 5%, and then purity of ingredients can vary, and there is also is the issue of how primer cake is made. From those who have seen it, primer cake is a wet slurry mixed by hand, the workers using paddles. I really doubt the homogeneity of the mix is perfectly even and so it makes sense that once in a while a bit of primer cake ends up creating a dud, and once in the while the process spits out an extra sensitive primer.

PATR 2700 gives this information into the design of primers:

The sensitivity of a primer for a given firing pin/weapon system is then designed into the primer by the proper choice of the thickness of the base of the primer cup, the point radius of the anvil, and the degree of compression of the mixture between the anvil point and the cup. This is controlled by the degree to which the anvil is compressed into the cup during manufacture of the primer. In addition, some influence of further compression can be achieved when the primer is inserted into the cartridge case and crimped.

These are all fire and none fire (all misfire) military primer requirements from Mil P 46610. This used to be the test method for determining ignition characteristics of primers, I don’t know if the semi conductor revolution has changed the test method, but basically a ball is dropped on a sample of primers at different heights.

#41 small rifle primer
4 ounce ball
All Fire Height 12 inches
Kinetic Energy 48 in oz

None fire height 3 inches
kinetic energy 12 in oz


#34 large rifle primer
4 ounce ball
All Fire Height 15 inches
Kinetic Energy 59.4 in oz

None fire height 3 inches
kinetic energy 12 in oz

PATR 2700 has this section on the testing of a primer lot:

The actual test procedure generally prescribes a sample of 400 primed cases. Fifty primed cases are tested at each height (where the drop-height is measured as the distance from the bottom of the ball to the top of the firing pin). The number of primers that fire-or fail to fire- is recorded, and this procedure is repeated at successively increasing heights of fifty primed cases at each height until a height is reached at which all test samples in the group being tested fire. The test procedure is repeated at successively decreasing heights of one inch each, using a new group of fifty test cases at each height, until a height is reached at which all primers tested fail to fire.

The raw data of fires and “no fires” is translated into meaningful sensitivity data by use of a calculation sheet shown in Table 1.

The data thus calculated, Ħ, the height at which 50% of the sample fired and ỡ, the standard deviation, can then be used to calculate the height at which all primers will be expected to fire at a chosen confidence level:

Ħ + 5 ỡ = All Fire Height (height at which not more than 3 out of 10,000,000 would misfire)

And also to determine the height at which all will misfire:

Ħ -2 ỡ = All misfire height (Height at which not more than 1 out of 50 will fire)

The none fire, or all misfire fire height allows 1 out of 50 primers to ignite. Extrapolating, out of a case of 5000 primers, you should expect 100 to ignite at the lowest energy level. I don’t consider that particularly comforting. On page 103 of Ammunition Making, George Frost has a table of normal ranges for Ħ depending on the primer application. Still, there are several things to be cautious of when looking at this test procedure and the averages that result. If 400 total primers are tested the lower drop limit is determined by a test of fifty primers. If only one primer goes off, the lot is considered acceptable in so far as the “None-Fire” or All misfire height. To me, fifty primers is not a reassuringly large enough sample to persuade me that an extra, extra sensitive primer might be lurking within the rest of the lot. There is also the assumption that the corporation follows its own procedures. I think everyone is aware that when enough profit is at risk, Corporations will over ride their quality inspectors and ship non conforming material. For corporations it is a monetary calculation: scrapping a lot results in 100% loss of profit, shipping a defective lot will result in some profit loss by customers returning defective product. There maybe potential costs if it goes to court, but since no one sues, the profit loss will be less than scrapping the lot. Given that the ammunition industry is self regulated, there is always some risk that the lot of primers you buy may not exactly be within spec. As a recent example of industry self regulation, take the example of the Herbal Supplement industry . As it turns out, when tested, nearly 80% of supplements were found to contain none of herbal supplement claimed on the label. Most contained garlic, rice, wheat, beans, but no herbs. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/02/03/sidebar-whats-in-those-supplements/?_r=0

SAAMI has a primer specification but I don’t have a rifle primer copy so I don’t know the difference in sensitivity between military large primers and commercial. While I can look up the military specifications, SAAMI specifications are hard to find, and then, they are voluntary. There is no legal liability if a company decides they don’t want to follow SAAMI specs and there is no way for us to determine if they are following any criteria. I called a couple of primer manufacturers, CCI was most helpful, Winchester told me everything was proprietary. None of them actually gave me numbers from lot acceptance tests and unless you happen to work at a primer manufacturer, or own the company, you won’t ever know just what is going on in the primer testing facility. This creates an information void. For us on the outside of the industry, monitoring posted slamfire incidents is the only way to evaluate the sensitivity of a primer brand. Manufacturer's are free to change primer characteristics whenever they think the market has moved. As an example, about 1999 Winchester changed over from a nickel plated primer to a brass finish primer. Winchester told me they had made the primer more sensitive to combat off center firing pin hits. They must have made the cups thinner or softer because the brass finish WSR pierced at loads that never bothered the good old nickel plated WSR. Prior to the change, I used to recommend WLR for service rifles but now I don’t. I never heard of slamfires with nickel plated WLR’s. Does not mean they did not, but prior to the internet age, there was a limit to the number of contacts and information sources. Searching the internet, there are reports of slamfires in every mechanism with a free floating firing pin (except roller bolts) and with every primer. The most slamfiring primer of all time is the Federal 210. Prior to the internet age, the only way to find out about slamfires was to personally meet and talk to guys who had blown the back end off Garand receivers using Federal primed cartridges. Because the only allowed causes of slamfires were shooter negligence, after enough judgmental attitudes, these guys rapidly stopped talking about their experiences. All the primer manufacturer’s make military specification primers but the only manufacturer offering their military line to the public is CCI. We should encourage all of them to offer their military product line.
 
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Federal has introduced their small rifle military product line to the public.
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2011/09/new-federal-gold-medal-match-primers-for-ars/

September 11th, 2011

New Federal Gold Medal Match Primers for ARs

Federal Ammunition has released a new type of small rifle match primer optimized for AR15s and similar semi-automatic rifles. The new Gold Medal® AR Match Primers, designated GM205MAR, have harder primer cups than the popular Federal 205M match primers. The harder cup is designed to perform better in semi-automatic actions that use free-floating firing pins. A Federal spokesman said that Federal’s “normal” 205M primers were not ideal for use in firearms, such as ARs, with free floating firing pins. Hence Federal designed the new GM205MAR primers. These are available now from major vendors such as Midsouth Shooters Supply, which offers the new GM205MAR primers for $35.22 per thousand.

Here's the skinny on the Federal GM205MAR primer.
http://68forums.com/forums/showthread.php?32572-Here-s-the-skinny-on-the-Federal-GM205MAR-primer

My friend at RCBS contacted the expert at Federal, and this is what he was told:
Mix is the same as in the standard small rifle primer. The primer cup is thicker, as is the anvil. The thicker cup and anvil “should” desensitize the primer a bit, and “lessen” the chance of a slam-fire. Federal primers are in general, more sensitive than CCI and less tolerant of firing pin blows during loading into the chambers of the M1 Garand, M1-A, and AR platforms.
I hope this helps shed some light.

Based on all the variations due to chemistry and possible failures of Quality Control, I don’t think anyone should be complaisant about primers. Primers should go bang only when you want, they may also go bang when you don’t want them.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...232052308.html

By Eric Pfeiffer, Yahoo! News | The Sideshow – Tue, Jun 12, 2012

A Pennsylvania woman was shot in the leg while shopping at a local department store on Tuesday. But in a nearly unbelievable twist, no gun was involved. Apparently, the woman was carrying the bullet in her purse, when it mysteriously exploded.

"She did not have a gun in her purse or on her," Montoursville Deputy Police Chief Jason Bentley told the Williamsport Sun-Gazette. Bentley said the woman, whose name has not been released to the public, "was not aware" she was carrying two or three bullets inside her purse at the time of the accident.

The 56-year-old woman was taken to a local hospital and was eventually discharged. In fact, the woman initially declined medical treatment, only heading to the Williamsport Regional Medical Center after her son reportedly encouraged her to do so.

"Something must of hit the primer of one of the bullets," Bentley said. "The bullet stayed in the purse, but its casing put a hole in the purse and caused a minor leg wound."

Bullets exploding outside of a gun are a rare occurrence but are not entirely unprecedented. In March, a bullet being used as evidence in a court case exploded in a bag and shot 20 feet across a courtroom. No one was hurt in the incident. It was surmised that the bullet exploded after its tip bounced against another bullet tip in the same evidence bag, according to the Telegram & Gazette.

While slamfires are rare, they happen. Recently at a club meeting I discussed slamfires with a retired Army Officer. This gentleman enlisted in the Army in 1960 when the Garand was the standard issue rifle. While he did have stories about GI’s being hurt from strange live weapon accidents, of all the times he was at the range, in live firing training, and under fire in Vietnam, he never saw or heard of a slamfire . However a couple of years ago he was chambering a LC round in his 7.62mm Air Force NM Garand (Lakeland AFB assembled) and the rifle slamfired in battery! That sure made an impression on him.

In a way you can pity the poor primer manufacturer. There are millions of century old, and older firearms, sloshing around the United States. Most owners have not the slightest concept of firearm maintenance, and just where do you get a new main spring for a relic that went out of production before the first World War, and would the owner even install it? While ignition systems on older firearms tend to be more robust than later designs, given a dirty firing pin channel, old mainspring, failure to ignite turns out to be a real problem for owners of old firearms. As PATR 2700 states : In order to fire reliably in a gun or other weapon, a percussion primer must possess impact sensitivity which is in consonance with the mechanical energy delivered by the firing pin. In all cases, a factor of safety is built into the system in such a manner that the firing pin energy usually exceeds the maximum energy requirement of the primer by approximately 20%” It is my opinion that the 20% safety factor is a matter of wishful thinking and only in the design of US military weapons if the System Engineer knew enough to put that in the Weapons System Specification. Regardless, the more firearms I shoot the more I encounter firearms with marginal ignition systems. This is basically the theme in the interesting article written by Hummer70 IT DON’T GO BANG:FIRES, HANGFIRES, MISFIRES AND SHORT ORDER COOKS IN JERSEY By Mark Humphreville http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2009/08/primers-it-dont-go-bang.html. I believe the problem is due to lack of expertise within the firearms industry and the emphasis on cost cutting. Firearms developed by commercial industry continually show the effects of shoe string budgets, lack of development research, and limited testing. It is amazing to find out that the AR15 rifle, a so called “fully developed commercial off the shelf rifle” had a slamfire problem. You can find this yourself, but the AR15 was able to go through photo op watermelon busting events, loans to Gunwriters for glowing reviews, and limited troop trials before it was discovered in mass production that the rifle had a slamfire problem. Upon testing it was found that the firing pin kinetic energy was above the “none fire”, or “all misfire” levels of commercial primers. For all the money spent in bally hoo and sales, the designers had never examined this issue. Apparently they just built something, it went bang in limited tests, and that was the extent of their efforts. It also turns out the early AR15 required powder pressure tolerances which were tighter than state of the art manufacturing could hold. The first powder manufacturer made a number of lots, then had to hand select those lots that would work. Furthermore, you would have thought Stoner would have researched primer sensitivity for his Stoner 63 weapon system series, but it turns out in Army tests, the ignition system did not have enough energy to reliably ignite the #41 primer!.

Inadequate ignition systems affect more than function, erratic ignition also affects accuracy. My Kimber M82 Government rimfire rifle misfired in cold weather and it required a new mainspring and adjusting firing pin protrusion to have reliable ignition. A gentleman I know, his Kimber M82G regularly misfires despite new mainsprings, the colder it gets, the more misfires he has. You can read any number of posts or threads where shooters of new handguns have misfires with factory ammunition or reloads. No one blames the thunderstick, instead they blame the ammunition. So pity the poor ammunition maker and understand the trend to make primers more and more sensitive. Those who cut mainspring coils to lighten trigger pull, and those who have never replaced a mainspring consider extra sensitive a desired attribute in a primer. Ammunition makers are under strong pressure to respond to the market. George Frost wrote a long section about misfires in his book. He states that misfires were the most common complaint he heard while at Customer Service. He stated that misfires were half of all rimfire complaints, 20% of the centerfire, and 18% of the shotshell. He then states that in more than half of the complaints, the ammunition maker was not at fault.

As with Herbal Supplements, you can only hope that the contents reflect the label, so it is with primers. You just hope that the primer manufacturer is following his own criteria, is not shipping non conforming product, and you really don’t know if there will be issues until you pull the trigger and everything works out as expected. While you can buy primers that are said to be on the average less sensitive, there is no reason to believe that someday you won’t encounter a primer that just happens to be extra sensitive. To mitigate the consequences/possibility of a slamfire there are practices you should always observe. For all semi autos the rounds should be full length sized and the dies set up with case gages. All cases should be sized 0.003” less than chamber size or more simply, sized to “Go” on the gage. Range pickup brass, once fired military brass, brass fired in a different chamber, use a small base die. Never allow a high primer, always inspect each and every round to ensure that all primers are below the case head. Seat primers around 0.003” to 0.005” but no deeper. Just a little below the case head is what you want. Feed rounds from the magazine as the friction between case and magazine slows the bolt forward velocity. Always be cognizant of where and what your muzzle is pointing at, as you can do everything right and the mechanism may still discharge. For Garand type mechanisms, the worst case scenario is single loading with the bolt released on a fat/long case in the chamber.

http://www.handloadersbench.com/view...ght=doubledown
I load alot for the M1A, heres some of the things I have learned along the way. I only use a small base full length dies, I reload on a 1050 Dillon and I also use a full length body die in the tool head just to make sure the brass is properly sized. I also drop every loaded round in a case gauge to make sure it will chamber. (PITA but my face is worth it)

I've had a slam fire ONCE, and on an open bolt rifle like the M1A it was not fun. It was cause by improperly sized brass (and not useing my head) I also use CCI 34 military primers only. The M1a is very hard on brass, I only load my brass twice and then scrap it.

This is what works for me, you can use any dies you want as long as the sized brass fits in a .308 case gauge you are good to go.

I PM’d the gentleman and asked for an expanded explanation:

It was 100% my fault and easily prevented...but I was'nt thinking. I was using CCI #34 primers and Nato brass. My problem was my sizing die backed out on a handful of my reloads, I thought I caught and checked them all but as I found out, One got by. The head of the lone unsized case would not seat fully in the chamber. I SAW THE CASE STICKING OUT OF THE CHAMBER about a 1/2 inch and out of habit let the bolt go home! It seemed like 3 minutes passed as the bolt was headed towards the cartridge and I was calling myself a stupid mother F***er and screwed my eyes shut and waited for detonation. It didn’t disappoint, the receiver grenaded, blew the magazine out and many parts including the rear sight up into the ceiling of the covered range. (I was the only one there) I only had a few scrapes, the rifle needed alot of work to be made operational again. Again, it was my my fault, muscle memory bypassed rational thought, and my lack of quality control. Lesson learned, and most importantly nobody got hurt.


I was on the firing lin in 2001 when Federal ammunition was issued for the first time at the Camp Perry Garand Match. They must have been using their commercial primers because there were so many slamfires on the load command, during the standing stage, that a bud of mine said for the morning relay “They like never got that match going”. I only heard one in the afternoon, I had been shooting team matches in the morning, and was puzzled by the sang froid attitude of the match officials. Only later did I learn that they had worked out a range procedure due to the high number of slamfires in the morning. In a Garand Collector magazine, I don’t have the issue, one page had a picture of a Garand that slamfired out of battery at the Camp Perry Garand Match and it had a busted off receiver heel. This was in the time period when Federal was issued on the line. The CMP had so many complaints about the 2001 ammunition they went back to Federal and had things worked out. Next years issue the ammunition was milder and there were no obvious slamfires, so I have concluded that Federal must have used their mil spec primer in 2002 and beyond Garand Match issue ammunition.


Bump firing is not a slamfire. I learned to shoot when M1a’s ruled NRA Highpower and I earned my Distinguished, and a regional Gold with an M1a. Back then you shot standing slow fire (single shot) and you used a “monster” grip to keep the butt firmly in the shoulder. In all the other positions, you shot using a tight GI three loop sling and you held the rifle tight. A perfect position was critical to shooting the 30 caliber monsters as with an imperfect hold, the gun would knock you out of position. One critical aspect was a tight sling and another was controlling the recoiling rifle. Sling tension was such that you pushed the buttplate forward before setting the rifle butt in the shoulder. Many times I have had the group slide diagonally as the sling loosened and competitive shooters had all sorts of tricks to keep the sling keepers in place and the sling tight and in position around the arm. Even on the bench I held the rifle butt firm against the shoulder as that is the way I learned to shoot. It was a surprise to me to hear of bump fires because that was beyond my experience, but then, most people today shoot off the bench instead of prone or sitting with a sling. A bumpfire is not a slamfire. The rifle is doing exactly what it was designed to do: the cartridge ignites after the shooter pulls the trigger. Bump firing occurs because the shooter is holding the rifle too loose and as the rifle recoils back and forth the shooters trigger finger is tripping the trigger mechanism. There are bump fire devices the whole of which I am afraid of, I consider bump firing uncontrolled firing and I think it is a dangerous practice especially after viewing a couple of U Tube Videos of Garands bump fired and the shooter almost drops the gun. Pistols will bump fire and I remember an incident published in a gun magazine. A Cop goes into a rest room stall and hangs his cocked and “locked” M1911 on the coat rack. The gun is cocked and the chamber loaded but the thumb safety is somehow off. When the policeman reaches up to retrieve his pistol he pushed the trigger against the coat rack and the pistol fires and continues to fire until empty as recoil moves the trigger guard back and forth on the coat rack hanger. According to the article no one was killed, but that does not mean this is a safe practice.
 
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Primers for M1 Garand

I use Remington 91/2. If I was loading for my 300 H&H with Rem 9 1/2 magnum primers, i'd use them in my 30.06 rounds for my garand. 48 grains of IMR4895 with 150gr FMJBT should put you in the black at 300yd
 
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