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Didn't see this posted here yet, so...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315563,00.html

Media Coverage of Mall Shooting Fails to Reveal Mall's Gun-Free-Zone Status
Thursday, December 06, 2007

By John R. Lott, Jr.

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The horrible tragedy at the Westroads Mall in Omaha, Neb. received a lot of attention Wednesday and Thursday. It should have. Eight people were killed, and five were wounded.

A Google news search using the phrase "Omaha Mall Shooting" finds an incredible 2,794 news stories worldwide for the last day. From India and Taiwan to Britain and Austria, there are probably few people in the world who haven’t heard about this tragedy.

But despite the massive news coverage, none of the media coverage, at least by 10 a.m. Thursday, mentioned this central fact: Yet another attack occurred in a gun-free zone.

Surely, with all the reporters who appear at these crime scenes and seemingly interview virtually everyone there, why didn’t one simply mention the signs that ban guns from the premises?

Nebraska allows people to carry permitted concealed handguns, but it allows property owners, such as the Westroads Mall, to post signs banning permit holders from legally carrying guns on their property.

The same was true for the attack at the Trolley Square Mall in Utah in February (a copy of the sign at the mall can be seen here). But again the media coverage ignored this fact. Possibly the ban there was even more noteworthy because the off-duty police officer who stopped the attack fortunately violated the ban by taking his gun in with him when he went shopping.

Yet even then, the officer "was at the opposite end and on a different floor of the convoluted Trolley Square complex when the shooting began. By the time he became aware of the shooting and managed to track down and confront Talovic [the killer], three minutes had elapsed."

There are plenty of cases every year where permit holders stop what would have been multiple victim shootings every year, but they rarely receive any news coverage. Take a case this year in Memphis, where WBIR-TV reported a gunman started "firing a pistol beside a busy city street" and was stopped by two permit holders before anyone was harmed.

When will part of the media coverage on these multiple-victim public shootings be whether guns were banned where the attack occurred? While the media has begun to cover whether teachers can have guns at school or the almost 8,000 college students across the country who protested gun-free zones on their campuses, the media haven’t started checking what are the rules where these attacks occur.

Surely, the news stories carry detailed information on the weapon used (in this case, a rifle) and the number of ammunition clips (apparently, two). But if these aspects of the story are deemed important for understanding what happened, why isn’t it also important that the attack occurred where guns were banned? Isn’t it important to know why all the victims were disarmed?

Few know that Dylan Klebold, one of the two Columbine killers, closely was following Colorado legislation that would have allowed citizens to carry a concealed handgun. Klebold strongly opposed the legislation and openly talked about it.

No wonder, as the bill being debated would have allowed permitted guns to be carried on school property. It is quite a coincidence that he attacked the Columbine High School the very day the legislature was scheduled to vote on the bill.

Despite the lack of news coverage, people are beginning to notice what research has shown for years: Multiple-victim public shootings keep occurring in places where guns already are banned. Forty states have broad right-to-carry laws, but even within these states it is the "gun-free zones," not other public places, where the attacks happen.

People know the list: Virginia Tech saw 32 murdered earlier this year; the Columbine High School shooting left 13 murdered in 1999; Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, had 23 who were fatally shot by a deranged man in 1991; and a McDonald's in Southern California had 21 people shot dead by an unemployed security guard in 1984.

All these attacks — indeed, all attacks involving more than a small number of people being killed — happened in gun-free zones.

In recent years, similar attacks have occurred across the world, including in Australia, France, Germany and Britain. Do all these countries lack enough gun-control laws? Hardly. The reverse is more accurate.

The law-abiding, not criminals, are obeying the rules. Disarming the victims simply means that the killers have less to fear. As Wednesday's attack demonstrated yet again, police are important, but they almost always arrive at the crime scene after the crime has occurred.

The longer it takes for someone to arrive on the scene with a gun, the more people who will be harmed by such an attack.

Most people understand that guns deter criminals. If a killer were stalking your family, would you feel safer putting a sign out front announcing, "This Home Is a Gun-Free Zone"? But that is what the Westroads Mall did.

John Lott is the author of Freedomnomics, upon which this piece draws, and a senior research scholar at the University of Maryland.
 
Dr.Lott is on a crusade to expose defenseless victim's zones for what they are.Hopefully more and more people are becoming aware.Unlike most of us the general public doesn't give much thought to the issue and as he points out the MSM ignores it.Its against their agenda.
Lott's pounding after each shooting has to be raising their awareness.
Keep pushing Dr.!
 
I actually brought that up on a fourm elsewhere before they even knew how many were hurt or killed! That is allways one of my peeves, that these idiots who put up those gun free zone signs are only making the law abiding not carry there. I can say, I never pay attention to those signs because it is not worth my life.
 
It is absolutely mind-boggling to me that the "pro-carry" argument has gained enough traction that the MSM is beginning to question their orthodoxy. As Lott noted, they didn't get it ten months ago--and now they do--and even on the opinion page.

Jim H.
 
I try all I can to stay out of "gun free zones" but now days it is getting harder and harder to find places to go...so I mostly stay home.
 
Why can't they broadcast something like this rather than simply posting it on their website?

It's a tragedy that this incident could have been abbreviated by a CWL holder and wasn't because of some idiot's fear of guns.

God bless the state of Florida. About the only places I've had to disarm in the past six months (beside college - we don't have Utahn style school carry yet) have been in a courthouse to pay a traffic citation and when I went to vote (sadly ironic, huh?)

In the same day I can go to the movies, go to a restaraunt and have a beer (not sitting at the bar), then go to the bank, and then go to the mall to pick up Christmas gifts. Do I have to disarm? No. This is how it should be in every state. There should be no "gun free" zones. About the only place that I can think of that would be a somewhat reasonable place to disarm would be a police/sheriff's office or a courthouse, because there are already so many guns present that your safety is not much of a concern. But, I'd still rather have my own "insurance" than have to rely on some cop who may or may not be a great shot.

There are very few places in Florida where I cannot carry. I can't carry in a bar, so I don't go to bars anymore. I can't carry in a professional athletic event not related to firearms, so I don't go to see the Orlando Magic or Florida Gators play.

I know it's a cliche around here but vote with your dollars.
 
Some sanity may be setting in abetted by the likes of Dr. Lott.My hometown Miami Herald-as anti-gun a rag as you can find-ran the story on page 3A.Not in screaming headlines above the fold as they would have done a year ago.
Also ,in this blessedly short article, no mention of the type weapon used was made .There was heavy emphasis on his mental illness and drug/alcohol use . The final words in the piece were from the lunatic ,saying that now he would be famous.
Hopefully,a step in the right direction, from the Herald at least.
 
After much cogitation(It Hurts! It Hurts!) maybe what needs to happen is a renaming of the ubiquitus Anti-CCW sign.

Should we not start referring to them as "I Love Criminals" signs? By properly naming these signs you force people to think about what they mean and what they stand for.

Maybe a sticker that shows "I *Heart* Criminals" with a bleeding bullethole in the heart that can be placed under the "No CCW" sign would let everyone going into a business know the true values of the operators of that enterprise.
 
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