Problem field stripping my new Rossi lever action

[7Star]

I recently picked up a Rossi M92 lever action. I took it out shooting today and tonight I had the bright idea to take it apart. Honestly, I couldn't even get past step one, remove the tang screw and remove the stock. I backed out the screw about 1/4 inch and then it just spins. I'm assuming I have to fully remove it to get the stock off. Any suggestions?

I was then a bit frustrated and proceeded to mess the whole mechanism up. I removed what I have seen called the Hammer Scew which is the slightly larger one immediately above the trigger.... well... when i removed it there was a nice whole there.. now I can't seem to open that whole back up to replace the screw. The trigger is stuck cocked and the lever is frozen at mid cycle. I am assuming, now, I really do need to take it apart to fix the problem. Any insight or experience would be much appreciated. I was just looking to give it a good cleaning after alot of shooting today.

 

[chevyforlife21]

i would stop right there thats not a gun thats good to disassemble, single shots also are very hard to put back together. get some help locally if you can

 

[7Star]

I think it's a bit too late to stop... I think that's the only way I'm going to get it working again. "Get some help locally."... do you think I could walk it into a local shop and get some assistance?

 

[Hanzerik]

I try not to take mine apart any more. They are pretty easy to take down, it's putting them back together that is a pain.

Here are the steps I used to disassemble mine

 

[PO2Hammer]

This might help.
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/taylor/field_strip.htm

 

[7Star]

hahaha!! That's the same page that got me into this trouble. Any input on why I can't get the tang screw fully out would be greatly appreciated. ... or even better... how to fix the prob with out taking it apart..but I don't know if that is possible at this point. Thanks alot! Much appreciated.

Bye the way.. I should say, I'm really liking the lightweight little rifle. The 38spl and 357 combo is a blast.

 

[Hanzerik]

You might have to try lifting up on the bottom of the screw head as you are un-screwing it. It is probably all the way un-threaded from the lower tang, but the wood might have a grip on it.

 

[7Star]

You know... Hanzerik you were right.. I stuck an awl in the bottom and banged it out. I'm always a little too worried about banging too hard on new toys when I'm not sure.

Anyway, now the mechanism is apart and I tried for 3 hours last night to line up both the holes, one in the trigger and the other in the hammer mechanism. Not so difficult with out the spring... but when the spring.. I never could get the holes to allign so I could put the screw back in place. I tried using a smaller meal rod to help push them into position in the hole... but the result is obvious. I have the screw, trigger, hammer mechanism and the spring all in a zip-lock bag. I give up. Maybe there is a trick I don't know to make it easier. Going to run it over somewhere to day for some guidance.

 

[TenDriver]

I just got mine back together the other day. Trick is to line up the hammer with the holes, then ease the trigger assembly back in while depressing the trigger. Goes back together nice and easy.

Got a question for ya...

The carrier in mine will not pivot. There is a metal bolt looking object that protrudes into grooves in the receiver. There are two grooves, one for down, one up. Mine is stuck in the down groove. Does the metal bolt on the carrier have a spring behind it, or is it fixed to the carrier? Mine does not appear to move at all. The gun was very dirty inside when I got it. Had to strip it down to give it a good cleaning.

BTW, if you're in N. Alabama I'm happy to help you get that thing back together.

 

[DPris]

Try reassembly with an empty brass in the chamber.

 

[7Star]

I was inserting the hammer and then second the trigger mechanism. .. and yes, I found that I had to depress the trigger to be able to position the trigger part properly. However, I could never get them to align perfectly enough to be able to get the screw through while under the pressure of the spring. Literally my hands are sore today. I'm going to run it over to my buddies after work and take another crack at it.

I never thought to reassemble it with an empty brass in the chamber DPris. Thanks for the input. Will that help me align those different holes.

As far as your question for me... I'm going to have a look at it again this evening and let you know.

 

[TenDriver]

Thanks 7.

What did you use to put through the hole in the spring rod? I used a straight pin the first time that broke while the rifle was still assembled. Next was a paper clip that folded up and ended up inside the spring. Thought I was through after that, but managed to get it all fixed up after much profanity.

 

[DPris]

The first Rossi 92 I played with took me 5 hours to re-assemble. I did not keep the gun, partly because of that.
I've since been told by two different gunsmiths that re-assembly with an empty brass in the chamber helps line everything up.

I now have a .45 Rossi 92 that Steve Young worked on for me. Someday I'll eventually break it down for a thorough cleaning, but I haven't yet on this one.
When I do, I'll try the empty brass trick.

Good luck. The 92 is a great design, but it's not user-friendly to get apart.

Denis

 

[7Star]

Finished.

"What did you use to put through the hole in the spring rod?" Wish I would I would have read that before... hahaha! That was my whole problem. I was trying to manipulate the parts and align the wholes while keeping pressure on the spring. I used a paperclip and man was that spring difficult to compress that far and insert the spring. I needed a buddy to lend me a hand. It's all good now. I think I'll just clean the barrel and reciever regualy, no disassembly required. Maybe once in a great while I'll take off the stock and clean that portion.

TD, I should read closer. Not sure I understand exactly. I only have the one spring and on my Rossi and it is simply contained by the flat portion on the other end... it is not attached or held down or in place by any device like in the diagram I had.

 

[TenDriver]

Don't feel bad. I just took the butt off mine and noticed there was still a piece of the paper clip through the hole. I'm going to do an action job on it, so the spring will come out anyway.

Also noticed my firing pin is now free-floating. I had it at the range yesterday and must have broken something in there.

This gun was not well taken care of when I got it, but after I get done with all the stuff I think I'll have something special. I've got a pretty low serial number. Not sure if that means much, but I don't really care. I wanted a 44 mag rifle for the longest time, so a little elbow grease is well worth having this thing in the closet. Ought to make a nice hog gun too when I get 'er back together!