Problems fitting Garand Action to new Dupage Stock

[Sky Dog]

I have just BLO finished a Dupage stock. Hand guards went on fine. I can't close the trigger guard when I mount the action. It still has about an inch to go before it closes.I figgered I'd have to fit it.
Any ideas?

 

[dh1633pm]

I would expect that it might be hard to close so it would be tight. Mine certainly is.

 

[BBBBill]

A quick search revealed these:

http://www.trfindley.com/pgtgfix.html

http://garandthumb.com/fitting-a-dupage-stock-on-an-m1-garand/

http://www.shotgunnews.com/guns/longguns/garand-accuracy-issues-stock-fit/

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=29797

http://m14forum.com/m1-garand-accur...arand-stock-ferrule-new-commercial-stock.html

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=70350

Lots more where that came from.

 

[Sunray]

Most aftermarket stocks require fitting. Very few are drop in.

 

[Orlando]

A properly fitting Garand stock should close hard, old worn surplus stocks the guard closes easily as the wood is compressed
. If the tip of the guard stops at about the end of the trigger it will close. Put a dab of grease on the trigger guard lugs, run the rear sight aperture all the way down, turn the rifle over on a padded surface and ..................

 

[Sky Dog]

This is as far as it goes....

 

[Orlando]

it will close, atleast all of mine have that were that far apart. I have used 4 Dupage stocks and they all closed very tight
The bad thing about removing wood to get it to close easier is the wood will compress, then your lock up will be even looser
You can always try this if you dont want to try and close it. Do you have another trigger guard with worn lugs (flat spots on the bottom)? If so use that one , in a couple of months the wood will comress enough to use the guard in the picture

 

[Sky Dog]

The only way I can do this is to put it in my bench vise. I have wooden inserts
on the vise to keep it from gouging the metal. The other concern is how to take it apart.

 

[Orlando]

It will open, mine do
I would flip it upside down on a padded table or carpeted floor. (make sure the aperture is run all the way down first) You can just lean hard on it or tap it down and back with a rubber or wood mallet
After you get it closed the next it will be alittle easier

You are not the first to ask the same question. It comes up often on the CMP forum
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=29797

 

[Sky Dog]

This is just an observation.... By closing the trigger guard, does it act as a fulcrum against the receiver, pressing the mag well outward against the wood, causing it to "bite" into the wood and help hold the action in place?

 

[25-5]

Trigger group is supposed to be very tight. I put the group on and put the guard on a cloth on my work bench and just push down. Where I purchased the stock warned me of this, so I've had no trouble.

 

[Orlando]

When you close the trigger guard it is grabbing the receiver locking onto it . The receiver and trigger group both are pulled towards the stock.
Look at a old surplus stock, you will see dents when the receiver and trigger housing sets from compressed wood
Now man up and close the darn thing!!

 

[25-5]

After you've got your stock on tight, you will want to know about peening.

 

[Orlando]

I got to thinking there are a couple aresa you can check to see if the trigger housing is fitiing correctly.
Set the action and the trigger group into the stock, look towards the back of where the housing sets and you will see the stock itself has ramps or angled cuts. Make sure the housing isnt setting on top of the ramps. Sometimes they are to long and may need cut down.
If they are to long this will result in very hard lockup

 

[Sky Dog]

I can place the trigger housing in the stock without the action and it fits perfectly. The same thing happens when I use the action only. That's why
I thought there was some outward expansion of the mag well where the
action and trigger housing met.

 

[Orlando]

go back and read my above post