Proposed Interior Dept. rules would ban shooting on public land
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JustinJ
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According to the article, opponents themselve actually say the change is that when conficts occur an authorized officer may prohibit shooting in an area after attempts to reduce or eliminate the violations by the BLM have been unnsuccessful. I'm not sure how that is unreasonable.
This looks like something other than that use plan. It looks like a policy change that is far more insidious because it gives the "authorized officer" the power to make a decision on use without a use study or plan or public comment or any of the normal processes required previously.
Use plans don't worry me, this sort of arbitrary power to use a agency of the federal government without process to make decisions about what may and may not be done with our property is deeply disturbing. We need to find out where this proposed change is in regulation so we can work against it directly.
"When the authorized officer determines that a site or area on BLM-managed lands used on a regular basis for recreational shooting is creating public disturbance, or is creating risk to other persons on public lands; is contributing to the defacement, removal or destruction of natural features, native plants, cultural resources, historic structures or government and/or private property; is facilitating or creating a condition of littering, refuse accumulation and abandoned personal property is violating existing use restrictions, closure and restriction orders, or supplementary rules notices, and reasonable attempts to reduce or eliminate the violations by the BLM have been unsuccessful, the authorized officer will close the affected area to recreational shooting."
Use plans don't worry me, this sort of arbitrary power to use a agency of the federal government without process to make decisions about what may and may not be done with our property is deeply disturbing. We need to find out where this proposed change is in regulation so we can work against it directly.
"When the authorized officer determines that a site or area on BLM-managed lands used on a regular basis for recreational shooting is creating public disturbance, or is creating risk to other persons on public lands; is contributing to the defacement, removal or destruction of natural features, native plants, cultural resources, historic structures or government and/or private property; is facilitating or creating a condition of littering, refuse accumulation and abandoned personal property is violating existing use restrictions, closure and restriction orders, or supplementary rules notices, and reasonable attempts to reduce or eliminate the violations by the BLM have been unsuccessful, the authorized officer will close the affected area to recreational shooting."
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And now it looks like the issue going public has rattled the BLM.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/wa...s-heard-interior-will-not-ban-target-practice
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/wa...s-heard-interior-will-not-ban-target-practice
Dave Workman
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Well, not so fast, guys.
Your humble correspondent has taken a look at this, called BLM and found out there is more...and perhaps LESS...to the story. My alarm bell went off when I read the original piece in yesterday's Washington Whispers column and it did NOT contain a link to the original document that seems to have everybody in a twist. It is a DRAFT document, and is a far distance from becoming policy.
You be the judge.
Obama pushing shooters off public lands? Oh, really??
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle/obama-pushing-shooters-off-public-lands-oh-really
Your humble correspondent has taken a look at this, called BLM and found out there is more...and perhaps LESS...to the story. My alarm bell went off when I read the original piece in yesterday's Washington Whispers column and it did NOT contain a link to the original document that seems to have everybody in a twist. It is a DRAFT document, and is a far distance from becoming policy.
You be the judge.
Obama pushing shooters off public lands? Oh, really??
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle/obama-pushing-shooters-off-public-lands-oh-really
My previous post here about LOCAL ant-gun nuts evidently has been deleted when this thread was moved. Yes, the Administration and it's friends want to eliminate gun rights. Fox4 in Dallas has brought up the issue of the Garland shooting range again (11/17/2011). I guess the victim's lawsuit is getting to court. They are pushing to close the range, even went to state gov. to find if there was a law to aid in shutting it down. Fact: Rowlett city zoned the land for residential, knowing it WAS in the possible line-of-fire. Developers built homes on that zoned land, builers and realators evidently didn't disclose that fact. The victim's wife is quoted as saying the shot probably didn't come from the range. It was a 22 rimfire slug. The victim is debt for ~$200k(hosp bill?), although his homeowner or medical insurance won't pay? Factoid, the GB turnpike is about finished there with a get-off next to the range. The GBT is out of line of fire. IMHO, this issue is now about commercially developing the adjacent land. The range owner has installed 'hoods' over the shooting benches to increase the safety of the range. I used to go fishing and in fact have taken my kids to that creek without concern(didn't even shoot there then). Will the range probably be closed? Yes, but because of $$, not safety. How does this relate to the BLM thread? $$$$$. I used to take the kids hiking on lands the BLM has completely closed down(back canyon behind Silverton), where there is NO safety concern.
Nico Testosteros
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The government has dropped any plan to regulate shooting on public land.
RobNDenver
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Once again, the President's administration has done shooters and gun owners a service. Oh well, we all know that his administration is going under the radar to eliminate our RKBA. . . You know, the way that Majority Leader Reid did when he obtained funding for the newest and nicest range in Nevada and my two Dem Senators in Colorado introduced legislation to fund public shooting ranges throughout the United States. . .
Not all Democrats are anti gun, nor are all Republicans pro 2nd Amendment. . . just my two cents.
Not all Democrats are anti gun, nor are all Republicans pro 2nd Amendment. . . just my two cents.
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