Found and purchased two boxes of 30 Remington brass at a local gun show to convert to 32 Remington. Pulled bullets with a hammer type puller and removed powder. The powder was different types from round flakes to like mechanical pencil lead, shorter than 3031. Found 5 different type and weight of bullets. Four of the cases had a soft nose jacked bullet that the lead core slipped out of the jacket, jacket still stuck in the case.:banghead: Any idea on how to remove the jacket and save the cases. I tried drilling a 1/16 hole in one jacket and using a pin through it across the top of my loading press to pull the case from the jacket, just ripped the sides of the jacket. Any help greatly appreciated, 32 Remington cases are a rare find for me.
Pulling bullets to reclaim brass
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Patocazador
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It sounds like part of the jacket is sticking up out of the case. If so, grab on to the exposed part with a needle nose vice grip and work it out by hand.
Or
If you have a Dremel or something similar, take a small drill bit or round bur and carefully make a slice vertically almost all the way through the jacket. Then use a small screwdriver to push it sideways which will further weaken the jacket. At some point it will separate and then just twist it out as described above.
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If you have a Dremel or something similar, take a small drill bit or round bur and carefully make a slice vertically almost all the way through the jacket. Then use a small screwdriver to push it sideways which will further weaken the jacket. At some point it will separate and then just twist it out as described above.
Blue68f100
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A lot of time it's easier to remove after you seat the bullet a little deeper to break the bond before removing the bullet.
Since the lead core has been removed your only option may be to only crush the jacket. May try some Kroil penetrating oil to help loose it. That are run a reamer through it.
Since the lead core has been removed your only option may be to only crush the jacket. May try some Kroil penetrating oil to help loose it. That are run a reamer through it.
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forster inside neck reamer
Some chemicals may damage the brass. Inside neck reaming? Maybe? http://www.forsterproducts.com/product/custom-machined-neck-reamer/
Some chemicals may damage the brass. Inside neck reaming? Maybe? http://www.forsterproducts.com/product/custom-machined-neck-reamer/
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FROGO207
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Next time just shoot them out. You will not have any accuracy but will sort of fire form the case to 32 cal neck.
This will NOT work the opposite way though.
We were shooting some targets and my brother grabbed some of my reloads and put them through the 32 SPL I have and they were all over the place. He had grabbed some 30-30 reloads instead.
Now you can run the brass up in the press and use your Vise Grips to crush the top of your bullet jacket and then use the press to lower the brass and the bullet should pull out when the Vise Grips make contact with the top of the press and hold what is left of the bullet from going down when the brass does.
This will NOT work the opposite way though.We were shooting some targets and my brother grabbed some of my reloads and put them through the 32 SPL I have and they were all over the place. He had grabbed some 30-30 reloads instead.
Now you can run the brass up in the press and use your Vise Grips to crush the top of your bullet jacket and then use the press to lower the brass and the bullet should pull out when the Vise Grips make contact with the top of the press and hold what is left of the bullet from going down when the brass does.
Many thanks for the suggestions. I tried seating the jacket deeper, it only folded. Crushed that one and put the brass into the shell, ran into the press and grabbed the jacket with Vise Grips and raised the handle, jacket tore into level with the case mouth. Will try oil and filling with needle files to see if I can score the jacket to bend and get it out.
Any other suggestions will sure be welcome.
Thanks again for the ideas, always good information here.
Any other suggestions will sure be welcome.
Thanks again for the ideas, always good information here.
Mauser69
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If you can slip the lead core back in (or even apiece of nail or screw of the right diameter), then you could use a collet type puller to remove the whole thing. If you can find a machine screw/bolt with just the right diameter (light friction fit inside of a bare case neck), then you could screw the bolt into the jacket and have the threads works like a broken screw extractor to grip the inside of the jacket and allow you to pull it out. If you get lucky and find the perfect size bolt (maybe one a bit large and then grind down the threads just a touch?), then use the bolt to slightly push in the jacket to break the stiction with the case before you try to pull it out.
Finally, you are going to neck up the cases anyway, right? (.30 to .32?) Since the jackets are so frail, maybe you could try just reforming one of them and see if the jacket is pushed loose inside the case during the process?
Last option would be to heat the necks up with a torch to see if the expansion allows the jacket to come free - just be careful to jot go too far.
Finally, you are going to neck up the cases anyway, right? (.30 to .32?) Since the jackets are so frail, maybe you could try just reforming one of them and see if the jacket is pushed loose inside the case during the process?
Last option would be to heat the necks up with a torch to see if the expansion allows the jacket to come free - just be careful to jot go too far.
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Scooter22
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Finally, you are going to neck up the cases anyway, right? (.30 to .32?) Since the jackets are so frail, maybe you could try just reforming one of them and see if the jacket is pushed loose inside the case during the process?
Thats what I'd try. The jacket probably will split. Good thing you didn't shoot them. Sounds like a bunch of reloads.
Thats what I'd try. The jacket probably will split. Good thing you didn't shoot them. Sounds like a bunch of reloads.
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.32 Rem
I bought 3 boxes of Remington 32 Rem loaded ammo from a guy 2 weeks before Christmas in 2014. Then 3 months later I bought a Rem Model 14 in .32 Rem from the same man. He had 2 Rem Model 14 's, one in 32 Rem, and the other in 35 Rem. If I had done my homework, , I would have bought the .35 Rem as ammo and bullets are still available. Also modern reloading recipes.
Fast forward a year later to this spring. I am an ammo collector and go to Collectible Cartridge Shows in St. Louis Mo. and Sioux Falls South Dakota. In St. Louis I found 2 more boxes of .32 Rem , 1 factory and 1 reloads $20 each. At the same show I found 3 boxes of New Un-Primed Empties which cost me $10 per box. You would think at a Cartridge Show that the prices would be higher. But you are not dealing with online sellers, where they steadily increase prices for obsolete ammo, and increase them higher than the last guy.
So that gave me 8 boxes of brass. The reloads were pulled, and when reloaded and fired, I lost 8 to cracked necks. When I was visiting my old neighbor in Wisconsin, he said that he had 2 boxes of once fired .32 Rem that he shot in the early 70's. So that added 2 more boxes.
You would think that my problems were over----NOT. Try and find bullets that can be used in the .32 Rem. The Hornady 170 grain flat tip and 170 grain flex tip have the cannelure too far back from the bullet tip. They were made for the Win .32 Special. The Model 14 has a critical overall cartridge length, so it can be inserted into the spiral tube magazine and feed into the chamber. The Hornady bullets can be used if one buys a canneluring tool for about $125. The Speer bullets have the cannelure closer to the tip, and can be used . Also the cartridge case has to be trimmed to the minimum of 2.030 inches so the bullet can be crimped. Midway USA delivered 2 boxes of Speer 170 grainers last Friday. If you have a Rem model 30 bolt action, the crimping is not necessary, and your problems are solved.
I bought a sample pack 2 months ago of 170 grain Hi-Tec coated bullets from MBC that were made for the 32-40 Rifle. The bullet diameter is the same .321 inches. I loaded some up with 3 different powders ( IMR3031--IMR 4198--- and Win 748) at the minimum charge loadings. They all created a puff of smoke when shot. They would not stay on a 8X11 sheet of target paper at 50 yards, because they were pushed too fast ( about 1800 fps ).
I had a post on this site last week asking about different powders to use with lead bullets, and Trail Boss was suggested. So I was on a quest for Trail Boss. My son-in-law found 2 cans in Greenville SC. last weekend, so that is solved. I also went on ebay and got a Lyman reloading manual number 45, and it had loadings for obsolete calibers. Evidently the .32 Rem was obsolete in 1970. They listed Unique loadings for 164 grain lead bullets. I will try the Trail boss first hopefully this week at the range. The MBC bullets are $55 per 500. The Speer bullets were $30.49 per 100. Do the math. The MBC bullets are cheaper, but I have to load them to a slower velocity to make them work.
All I can say is GOOD LUCK.
I bought 3 boxes of Remington 32 Rem loaded ammo from a guy 2 weeks before Christmas in 2014. Then 3 months later I bought a Rem Model 14 in .32 Rem from the same man. He had 2 Rem Model 14 's, one in 32 Rem, and the other in 35 Rem. If I had done my homework, , I would have bought the .35 Rem as ammo and bullets are still available. Also modern reloading recipes.
Fast forward a year later to this spring. I am an ammo collector and go to Collectible Cartridge Shows in St. Louis Mo. and Sioux Falls South Dakota. In St. Louis I found 2 more boxes of .32 Rem , 1 factory and 1 reloads $20 each. At the same show I found 3 boxes of New Un-Primed Empties which cost me $10 per box. You would think at a Cartridge Show that the prices would be higher. But you are not dealing with online sellers, where they steadily increase prices for obsolete ammo, and increase them higher than the last guy.
So that gave me 8 boxes of brass. The reloads were pulled, and when reloaded and fired, I lost 8 to cracked necks. When I was visiting my old neighbor in Wisconsin, he said that he had 2 boxes of once fired .32 Rem that he shot in the early 70's. So that added 2 more boxes.
You would think that my problems were over----NOT. Try and find bullets that can be used in the .32 Rem. The Hornady 170 grain flat tip and 170 grain flex tip have the cannelure too far back from the bullet tip. They were made for the Win .32 Special. The Model 14 has a critical overall cartridge length, so it can be inserted into the spiral tube magazine and feed into the chamber. The Hornady bullets can be used if one buys a canneluring tool for about $125. The Speer bullets have the cannelure closer to the tip, and can be used . Also the cartridge case has to be trimmed to the minimum of 2.030 inches so the bullet can be crimped. Midway USA delivered 2 boxes of Speer 170 grainers last Friday. If you have a Rem model 30 bolt action, the crimping is not necessary, and your problems are solved.
I bought a sample pack 2 months ago of 170 grain Hi-Tec coated bullets from MBC that were made for the 32-40 Rifle. The bullet diameter is the same .321 inches. I loaded some up with 3 different powders ( IMR3031--IMR 4198--- and Win 748) at the minimum charge loadings. They all created a puff of smoke when shot. They would not stay on a 8X11 sheet of target paper at 50 yards, because they were pushed too fast ( about 1800 fps ).
I had a post on this site last week asking about different powders to use with lead bullets, and Trail Boss was suggested. So I was on a quest for Trail Boss. My son-in-law found 2 cans in Greenville SC. last weekend, so that is solved. I also went on ebay and got a Lyman reloading manual number 45, and it had loadings for obsolete calibers. Evidently the .32 Rem was obsolete in 1970. They listed Unique loadings for 164 grain lead bullets. I will try the Trail boss first hopefully this week at the range. The MBC bullets are $55 per 500. The Speer bullets were $30.49 per 100. Do the math. The MBC bullets are cheaper, but I have to load them to a slower velocity to make them work.
All I can say is GOOD LUCK.
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