Purchasing new rifle: suggestions?

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I'm looking to buy a new rifle for target shooting, and I've always been into shooting long distances. I might want to try hunting someday, but not likely to be terribly soon. Here are my criteria, what should I look for?

-accurate up to 500 yds.
-bolt action
-reliable
-fun to shoot
 
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=127308903

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=126963857

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=126990133

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---accurate up to 500 yds; 06' will have a bit flatter trajectory using same bullet weight if all variable's are somewhat equal.

---bolt action

---reliable

---fun to shoot : 308 might have a recoil advantage here but with Rem's new R3 pad this is no longer an inssue.


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Stainless would be preferable; and stainless has a better long term value and trade value.

You did not mention a price range; so if your gonna keep this one rifle for a 'while' invest your money!!!
 
You're right, I forgot to mention price. Normally I'd agree with you as far as paying for long-time quality, but with how the market is now, my wallet is feeling thin. I looked up the SPS Varmint that cibach mentioned, and I was thinking closer to $1,000, but if that gun is the quality it claims at closer to $500, that's the route I will likely take. Not to say later when my wallet is in better health I wouldn't consider upgrading, but I'm hoping that I'd be able to get some good time in with any R-700.
 
Well fun to shoot, to me, would require:
A) low recoil. Something in a 243 might be a real good e-z kicking choice. If you are not yet a big hunter know that a 243 will take anything up to and including deer (legally) - which includes rabbits or coyotes or skunks or whatever as far as one should likely take one. B) lots of different loads to try - 243 fits the bill there too. Everything from 55 to 100 grain. Something in there for whatever the purpose. C) Exciting- get something with a good trigger right out of the box. I might recommend a CZ 550 because of the set trigger. Push the trigger forward and it clicks, putting it into 'set trigger' mode. The lightest force will trigger it and that makes for awfully good target results and is just a hoot. You don't have to use the set feature and can just pull it like a normal trigger if you want - good for most hunting. They are well built and come with rings. They are not heavy but not as light as a lot of others which, combined with its excellent decellerator recoil pad, would make for very pleasant extended shooting sessions. Nothing wrong with the Rem's (I own and love mine) and the new Winchesters seem very nice. Tikka is a great choice if you like them and the triggers have a fine reputation -just maybe not as easy to top load. Weatherby's can be a real bargain as are Savage. Ruger is made in America and also comes with rings. If you decided a little more power is needed for the longer ranges I would go up to a 25-06. That is starting to burn some powder but recoil is still doable for about anyone. Going up to a 270 or 308, especially in a lighter rifle, while certainly manageable and even comfortable with experience, can be detrimental to a newer shooter and just plain not as fun. Whatever you do D) do not buy a caliber bigger than you want\need. Biggest mistake most people make is buying a magnum or some heavy kicker only to secretly hate using it. The guy who shoots comfortably will ALWAYS shoot more and consequently, shoot best. Does this help?
 
I was planning to at least start with factory ammo, I haven't learned to reload yet. At least at the moment I don't shoot terribly frequently, once every couple of months (though that will likely increase soon).

I like a decent kick in my gun, I'm weird like that. I like the challenge of mastering a long-distance shot with a rifle that has some kick to it, hence I'll probably go with the .308, just for fun purposes. At some point I'd like to get my hands on a Dragunov style rifle, though the one I'm shopping for now is my first priority.
 
I personally would go with a .243 also, espically if you are going to be target shooting with this. The lower recoil helps you keep sight pic and get back on target faster too.
 
I was thinking of the R-700 in .308, it looks pretty sweet. Have you actually fired one?

Yes, and I have a Remington Model 7 in .308. It is the carbine version of the 700. It is probably my favorite rifle that I own. Excellent hunting rifle. However, you will get more velocity out of a full size rifle due to the longer barrel which will create slightly flatter trajectory if long range shooting is what you are after. For pure pointablity though, you can't beat a Model 7.
 
I'd get a Ruger M77 mk II and have the trigger done (or do it yourself if you like) or a Howa 1500 / Weatherby Vanguard and install a Timney.
 
Winchester model 70 in 300 win mag. Recoil is a bit of a bugger, but it shoots as flat as anything else out there, nice for longer range shots. And it will stop almost anything out there.

A slightly crazier idea is a Mosin 91/30. Cheap to buy (got a "new" cosmoline covered one a month ago for $89 from Big 5. Relatively cheap to shoot and quite accurate. Although not as accurate as some of the other models mentioned above, it is still far more accurate than I am.
 
Another vote for the Rem 700/308, have one and it is my favorite rifle to shoot. Most accurate too. However, I've been hearing awesome reviews about the Savage 10FP Tactical that lefteyedom suggested. I'm really wanting to shoot one, and they are supposed to be just as, or even more accurate than the Remington.
 
cz 270 or cz 308 for the set trigger. Kicks but is comfortable. Still think a 25-06 would be a good option even though they are not a favorite of mine. Seems like a good application for one. IF you like kick and flat trajectory with a good trigger the Tikka 270wsm is another possibility. If you get a Savage hold out for one with a better stock - like the Accustock or the HS Precision. Should still be in your budget and you may fall in love with the Accutrigger.
 
I think I've decided on a Remington 700 SPS Varmint in .308

I like the accuracy and durable barrel, and I don't mind the extra weight, plus I plan to upgrade whatever I get in the long run anyway, so a new stock and possibly trigger down the road won't be out of the question.

Thanks for all your help!
 
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