cslinger
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Ok now before I start I just want everybody to know that I don't plan on taking a hacksaw to my shotguns nor do I plan on making any illegal firearms based on current laws. I have a purely academic question so no repeats of the select fire thread please.
Ok so on shotguns under current law I cannot own one with less then an 18.5 inch barrel unless I pay the SBR $5.00 and fill out a mountain of paperwork and submit to a probe and GPS tracking installation to my forehead. I got this.
Now if somebody makes a shotgun barrel (hack saw, new production whatever) that is less then 18.5 inches but it is not installed on a receiver is this illegal. For example you own an 870 with an 18.5 inch barrel or 24 inch or whatever. You also own a 14.5 inch barrel for an 870 but it is not installed etc. Is the barrel itself illegal or does it only become illegal once it is attached to a firearm receiver. Is owning both the receiver and short barrel a crime like owning full auto M16 parts and an AR15 is a crime.
What got me to thinking about this was the thread about WACO/Ruby Ridge. If you were a gun smith and somebody asked you to cut a barrel down to 18.5 inches legally would you not only cut the barrel without ever attaching it to a firearm just in case you were .003 of an inch off. Just as a CYA.
Once again I don't advocate breaking the law, no matter how stupid a law might sound. I just don't understand how all this stuff happened to Randy Weaver. Could he not have just cut the barrel and placed all responsibilty on the person receiving the barrel to follow all laws etc. For example, sure I will cut you a 14 inch barrel but before you install it you must contact the BATF and fill out X, Y and Z paperwork etc. to make it legal.
So is having just a barrel under 18.5 inches illegal?
Just curious and many people know that I am a stickler for following firearms law and I have written quite a few letters to the BATFE to clarify things and have always erre'd on the side of the law, so please don't jump on me saying "Look that evil troll is a BATF agent just looking to arrest all of us. or "Look that evil terrorist is trying to learn how to make a baby killer." Neither is the case.
Thanks
Chris
Ok so on shotguns under current law I cannot own one with less then an 18.5 inch barrel unless I pay the SBR $5.00 and fill out a mountain of paperwork and submit to a probe and GPS tracking installation to my forehead. I got this.
Now if somebody makes a shotgun barrel (hack saw, new production whatever) that is less then 18.5 inches but it is not installed on a receiver is this illegal. For example you own an 870 with an 18.5 inch barrel or 24 inch or whatever. You also own a 14.5 inch barrel for an 870 but it is not installed etc. Is the barrel itself illegal or does it only become illegal once it is attached to a firearm receiver. Is owning both the receiver and short barrel a crime like owning full auto M16 parts and an AR15 is a crime.
What got me to thinking about this was the thread about WACO/Ruby Ridge. If you were a gun smith and somebody asked you to cut a barrel down to 18.5 inches legally would you not only cut the barrel without ever attaching it to a firearm just in case you were .003 of an inch off. Just as a CYA.
Once again I don't advocate breaking the law, no matter how stupid a law might sound. I just don't understand how all this stuff happened to Randy Weaver. Could he not have just cut the barrel and placed all responsibilty on the person receiving the barrel to follow all laws etc. For example, sure I will cut you a 14 inch barrel but before you install it you must contact the BATF and fill out X, Y and Z paperwork etc. to make it legal.
So is having just a barrel under 18.5 inches illegal?
Just curious and many people know that I am a stickler for following firearms law and I have written quite a few letters to the BATFE to clarify things and have always erre'd on the side of the law, so please don't jump on me saying "Look that evil troll is a BATF agent just looking to arrest all of us. or "Look that evil terrorist is trying to learn how to make a baby killer." Neither is the case.
Thanks
Chris