Question about slug barrel and slugs.

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Johnny Guzman

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I have a Remington 870 20 gauge. I have a replacement barrel that is rifled which I used to use sabot slugs for deer hunting back in the day. I was wondering what other types of slugs could I shoot out of a rifled barrel? Will standard slugs work? I'm guessing rifles slugs would work, am I correct? Are there any type of slugs that would not work and damage my barrel? Which slugs can or cannot be shot with a rifled shotgun barrel? Thank you.
 
I don't think there are any slug loads will damage your barrel, but since but non-sabot slugs are fairly soft, you'll probably experience some leading. I've had better accuracy with full-bore slugs with attached wads, like Brenneke. Brenneke also makes a dandy slug that is coated to reduce leading. I think Fiocchi makes an attached wad slug that is good also. Pretty sure the Remington Buckhammer is out of production, but if you came across some, they'd fit the bill too. Oh, Ballistic Products still offers their 'Dangerous Game' slug for reloading with an attached wad that is great. I got some once a while back that were loaded ammo. I think they were by Fiocchi, but I don't see them on the BP site as loaded. Oh, RIO makes a nice 20ga Brenneke style att-wad slug load too.
 
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It's too bad Remington stopped making the Buckhammers. They were cheap and shot good out of everything i tried them in
 
Standard rifled slugs are quite undersized for your barrel. May or may not shoot accurately. Will deposit lead. Nobel makes a brenneke like slug that shoots well in three of my rifled barrels.
 
I have a Mossberg 500 with a rifled barrel that shoots Super X slugs very well to around 75 yards. I have literally shot hundreds of Super X slugs with that gun and never experienced any leading in the barrel. Sabots do shoot well. But they don't increase the accuracy one bit but they do increase the range of the gun. Sabots are accurate to at least 150 yards. Some of the 300 grain bonded sabots will shoot over 150 yards. A bonded sabot is essentially a 50 caliber bullet wrapped in plastic.

When I check the scope on my slug gun I use the sight in targets with a 2" square in the center of the target. Every shot is touching the square.

I use the super X 3" slugs that come in a 15 shot value pack. You will start seeing them in walmart when hunting season is drawing near. The 2 3/4" slugs shoot well but they drop over 6" in 100 yards. When you are shooting a 1 oz chunk of lead the extra 120 fps makes a difference.

3" super X slug 1720 FPS
2 3/4" super X 1600 FPS

If you decide to use the barrel don't try to sight it in one session. Three shots are enough to make an adjustment. If you try to shoot it more than 5 or 6 times you will need some 22 LR therapy to stop flinching. All the stats I posted are for a 12 ga. Lot's of people have the savage bolt action 20 ga slug guns in this area. They get the job done so will your pump.
 
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Using old school slug's in a fully rifled barrel is a crap shoot, and the only way to find out is to try them, and be prepared for some major leading if it doesn't work.

Also as stated long sessions with a slug gun can leave you hurt if you are not experienced.
 
If you reload you can use our new 12ga sabots that use 58cal
Minie bullets. And load for less than buck each.
Info in 12ga FH thread.Ed
 
This type of slug will work in a rifled barrel.
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Groups will be double the size of sabots @ 100 yds, about 8" Group hit higher on target with same sign settting, used for sabots. No leading. Tested with Mossberg 500 , 12 ga., with scope.
 
If you can still find some of the Wolf brand slugs, they shoot amazingly well through a rifled barrel slug gun.
Not sure if they come in 20 guage though,,,
 
I used Brenneke slugs for hunting deer. They are very accurate out to 75 yards or so and really do a lot of damage. I used a Remington 870 for several years and had one Brenneke enter the deer's rear leg and travel up through the body, doing a lot of internal damage before coming to rest just under the skin after breaking through the rib cage. Another time the deer dropped like a sack of potatoes after being shot in the high shoulder area. I think the spine was severed. Buckhammers were a great slug made by Remington, but they were just brutal to shoot, although I did not notice it much when hunting. I had a 100+ yd. kill on a large deer using Buckhammers. But sighting in a the range was too much. Now I have a Savage 220 slug gun. It is a 20 ga. and is amazingly accurate. I shoot 3" Remington Accutips.
 
I would use these

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/66...20-gauge-2-3-4-1-oz-lead-rifled-slug-box-of-5

It's also safe to use with rifles or smoothbore shotguns.

In my opinion and experience, Brenneke style slugs offer better terminal performance and reliability than foster style slugs such as the remington slugger. Foster slugs tend to shatter and split. Brenneke's design is comparable to a hardcast lead wadcutter in a revolver. Goes through the target doing massive damage, penetrates in a line, and deforms very little.

Photos of different slugs after going through gel:

http://www.brennekeusa.com/cms/file...t/user_upload/Dokumente/Special_Forces_LE.pdf
 
The Brenneke slugs have good reputation but they are expensive. I can get Federal Fusion sabots for the same price. The Federal fusion is a hard hitting sabot with a range of over 150 yards in a 12 ga.

Brenneke used to make an all copper slug. I had a fat pine stump I couldn't dig up with a backhoe. I already had a 4' hole dug around the stump and it wouldn't budge. I was really frustrated so I got my shotgun and shot the stump with a Brenneke copper slug. Much to my amazement the slug split the massive stump. I just put the teeth of the back bucket in the crack created by the slug and wiggled the bucket. The stump split into two easy to handle pieces. In less than 30 minutes I had the stump out of the hole in a place to burn brush and the other stumps I had dug up. I have no idea how much each half of that stump weighed. But when I set it on fire it burned any and everything I pushed on top of it.

You can't make this **** up!
 
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