GoingQuiet
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Lets get this part out of the way - I am an 07/02 FFL/SOT. I'd like other industry professional insights on this subject because this sort of thing came up recently and I'm not sure what the best way to approach it is.
I received an email from a guy wanting to do an SBR. I told him that he can do it two ways, he can do a Form 1 build - HE builds it or he can do a Form 4 - I build it and sell it to him.
He liked the idea of the Form 1 and I told him all you need to do is make sure your stamp comes back before you build anything and make sure the gun is engraved properly with makers marks.
Then came up the CLEO signature. I was asked who can sign. I informed them the local chief isn't know for signing, the local sheriff has a 17 page long application and he may consider going to the state attorneys office or the courthouse to see if a judge will sign.
Now, I know who will sign in this area and who will not. It has been my stance as a matter of professional courtesy to those in a position to sign that this information not be floating around public. When someone asks me to get them a signature on a transfer or on a purchase off my shelf - I don't tell them who the package is going to - if they get a signature, fine. If they don't for whatever reason - they don't know who turned them down.
The response was: I don't know anyone who will sign for me. If I pay you, will you help me with the process?
Now that could go any number of ways but what I surmise from the statement was a very polite version of "Will you sell me a CLEO signature?" and I'm just wondering if others in the industry share the same insights as me. Also, if you are an FFL/SOT - if posed the question above, would you arrange it for a fee? Sounds remarkably shady as hell.
(If anyone cares, my response was that I can assist with engraving - but as a manufacturer I cannot get involved with any Form 1 paperwork processes)
I received an email from a guy wanting to do an SBR. I told him that he can do it two ways, he can do a Form 1 build - HE builds it or he can do a Form 4 - I build it and sell it to him.
He liked the idea of the Form 1 and I told him all you need to do is make sure your stamp comes back before you build anything and make sure the gun is engraved properly with makers marks.
Then came up the CLEO signature. I was asked who can sign. I informed them the local chief isn't know for signing, the local sheriff has a 17 page long application and he may consider going to the state attorneys office or the courthouse to see if a judge will sign.
Now, I know who will sign in this area and who will not. It has been my stance as a matter of professional courtesy to those in a position to sign that this information not be floating around public. When someone asks me to get them a signature on a transfer or on a purchase off my shelf - I don't tell them who the package is going to - if they get a signature, fine. If they don't for whatever reason - they don't know who turned them down.
The response was: I don't know anyone who will sign for me. If I pay you, will you help me with the process?
Now that could go any number of ways but what I surmise from the statement was a very polite version of "Will you sell me a CLEO signature?" and I'm just wondering if others in the industry share the same insights as me. Also, if you are an FFL/SOT - if posed the question above, would you arrange it for a fee? Sounds remarkably shady as hell.
(If anyone cares, my response was that I can assist with engraving - but as a manufacturer I cannot get involved with any Form 1 paperwork processes)
