Questions about Ammo

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Some questions about ammo.

I don't want ammo that is going to dirty up my rifles and suppressors, so if that means no polymer coated rounds, it'd be good to know now.



1.) Is remanufactured ammo bad? ( Does 'remanufactured' mean reloaded? )


2.) Is loaded in once fired brass bad?


3.) Is fully processed brass bad? (What does it even mean?)


4.) Is polymer coated lead bullet bad? ( I don't want to find out people saying, "O, it's common knowledge to never shoot polymer coated or coated bullets through a suppressor!" )
 
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1 basically, but done so by a ammunition manufacturer. They use fired cases but new Everything else

2 i buy once fired cases, and use scrounged range brass all the time, never had a problem.

3 fully processed cases mean you can, in theory, load them with no other prep. Ive found that even fully processed cases usually need to have case mouths straitened of shipping dents.

4 not really sure as ive never owned a suppressor, but id have to say "maybe". My .458 Socom would lead up its barrel and muzzle break from vaporized lead. My 300aac's never did. Both cals were shot with MBC coated bullets.

If your supressors disassemble able id try it and see if your getting lead buildup on your baffles if so id quite as its a pain to get it off.
 
1 basically, but done so by a ammunition manufacturer. They use fired cases but new Everything else

2 i buy once fired cases, and use scrounged range brass all the time, never had a problem.

3 fully processed cases mean you can, in theory, load them with no other prep. Ive found that even fully processed cases usually need to have case mouths straitened of shipping dents.

4 not really sure as ive never owned a suppressor, but id have to say "maybe". My .458 Socom would lead up its barrel and muzzle break from vaporized lead. My 300aac's never did. Both cals were shot with MBC coated bullets.

If your supressors disassemble able id try it and see if your getting lead buildup on your baffles if so id quite as its a pain to get it off.


So fully processed is only brass, not an actual round? That sucks. They show a picture of a full round. I'd hate to order a bunch expecting ready to shoot rounds and only getting prepped cases.
 
The quality of reman ammo depends on the quality control by those doing it. I've never had a problem, though some people have posted about poor quality.

In my decades of reloading, I mostly neck-size only for bottle-neck cartridges. How many times a case can be used varies. Cases can be re-annealed when they harden; this was once more common than nowadays. I've read of re-annealing at around 20 reloads, but I'd guess that the loadings were less than maximum pressure.

To me, "fully processed" would mean de-primed, cleaned and full-length resized. Ready to use for reloading.

No experience with coated bullets...
 
My $.02 on your questions:


1.) Is remanufactured ammo bad? ( Does 'remanufactured' mean reloaded? )

reman = reloaded. Is it bad? Depends on who did the reloading, and how quality oriented they were. In general, I think most (operative word there) commercial reloading companies are pretty decent. Only way to tell is to shoot them or talk to those who have.

That said, I've noticed several instances of poor quality control in new commercial ammo recently, to wit: .40 caliber round with a bullet loaded backwards, and a box of new eastern european rifle ammo with 2 crushed case mouths.

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2.) Is loaded in once fired brass bad?
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Not on its own it isn't. Most brass from most firearms can be reloaded several times. Depends on a lot of particulars though: the type of firearm it was fired in, the abuse the case took both during and after firing but before reloading, and the care taken in reloading.

3.) Is fully processed brass bad? (What does it even mean?)

"Fully processed" is an advertising buzzword (sort of like a few years ago we had "turbo" everything.) It may mean "cleaned + sized", or it may mean "cleaned + primer pocket uniformed + flash hole deburred + neck turned + length trimmed + neck deburred + anything else that can be done to a case", or it may mean anything in between Only way to know would be to ask the people advertising as such.

Is it bad? Compared to what? I'd take something advertised as "Fully processed" over something saying "unprocessed" unless I wanted to do it all myself (which I probably would anyway, so...)

4.) Is polymer coated lead bullet bad? ( I don't want to find out people saying, "O, it's common knowledge to never shoot polymer coated or coated bullets through a suppressor!" )[/QUOTE]

No experience with either coated bullets or suppressors. No need for me to look into it. Don't know.

Hope this helps
 
"...don't want ammo that is going to dirty up my..." That means no shooting with any ammo.
1) No. Remanufactured ammo is basically commercially reloaded ammo.
2) All reloaded ammo was 'once fired' at some time. Buy a box of factory ammo and reload it is once fired. No big deal.
3) Fully processed brass is brass that has been commercially taken to the point it only needs primer, powder and bullet. Neck turning, length trimming and neck deburring(that's the case mouth not the neck) is only done when it's required. Isn't an every time thing.
4) Polymer coated or painted(powder coating is just baked on paint) bullets are that way to prevent or reduce the amount of lead that gets into an indoor range's air. Has nothing to do with much of anything else. Certainly not a suppressor.
 
4) Polymer coated or painted(powder coating is just baked on paint) bullets are that way to prevent or reduce the amount of lead that gets into an indoor range's air. Has nothing to do with much of anything else. Certainly not a suppressor.

The poly coating CAN reduce lead fouling in the air, barrel, and any place lead deposits can form. In a suppressor i assume, like a muzzle break, its the atomized lead that causes the build up. If your getting leading there your also likely blowing lead back into your bolt which is a PITA to scrape clean of lead.
The coating doesnt always work tho depending on velocity, bullet fit, and gas check. Im not nearly knowledgeable enough to advise beyond trying some and seeing for yourself.
 
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