Questions about H&R Pardner Single

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Hi,

So I picked up a used H&R Pardner Single in 12 Ga.

I was wondering how long will I be able to use this gun before it breaks on me? Assuming that I clean it and take care of it. I plan to shoot some trap with it and hunt once in a while.

Also, I'm thinking of adding some weight to the gun through a recoil pad, stock ammo cuff, and a sling?

What's the best way to attach a sling to one of these?
 
the first time I ever shot .410GA it was through one of these...and it was old and working fine...I don't think you'll have ANY problems with this simple designed shotgun...I have my Dad's Stevens single shot 12GA from the mid 1950s and it still works and looks new...good luck with yours but I think you'll be fine...
Bill
 
Great lil gun, but not quite as bullet proof as the above posters would suggest. I wasn't super rough on mine, but definitely didn't handle it as gently as some of my other guns. The stock on mine has become very loose, started out as a little wiggle, but now it twists pretty good. You just reminded me that I need to figure out how to fix it. Still, got mine for $90 a few years back new. Less then $100 for new shotgun? Thing could have spontaneously combusted after a few years and I still would have been happy.
 
Great lil gun, but not quite as bullet proof as the above posters would suggest. I wasn't super rough on mine, but definitely didn't handle it as gently as some of my other guns. The stock on mine has become very loose, started out as a little wiggle, but now it twists pretty good. You just reminded me that I need to figure out how to fix it. Still, got mine for $90 a few years back new. Less then $100 for new shotgun? Thing could have spontaneously combusted after a few years and I still would have been happy.
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Remove the cushioned butt pad and tighten the stock bolt. Easy fix...

These guns are tough little numbers. I have a 10GA Pardner set up for turkey and a 12GA Ultra Slug Hunter Deluxe with a Bushnell 1.75-4x32 scope.
 
Remove the cushioned butt pad and tighten the stock bolt. Easy fix...
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If by cushioned butt pad you mean that rock solid plastic pad... :)
but ya, I did that and discovered the stock bolt was covered by some weird plate, and I don't have any tool to get down there and remove it. Might be able to get to it with a real long/skinny flathead.
 
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Colton/Marty, how do I get the plate that covers the bolt off through? Thats where I'm stuck.

and Marty how's the 10ga shoot? I was shocked to see that on the H & R website. As it is I'm thinking of throwing a limbsaver on my 12ga and I don't really think of myself as sensitive to recoil. only thing is I don't use it all that much, it's real nice for dec grouse hunts where even if I flush half a dozen birds I'm lucky to get one clear shot on em. Would rather not carry my 870 around when sometimes I walk all day and don't even end up pulling the trigger.
 
Don't dry fire it.
Broken firing pins are the most common reason I see single barrels come into the shop and dry firing the guns is the biggest reason they break.

The Pardner single barrels will last a very long time, probably longer than you if you take care of it and most likely it will be around long after you are gone even if you don't.
 
they will last forever. i have shot a few from the early 1900's one was a 1904 it still shot great. and yea you just tighten the stock it happens, stocks rattle loose after use. it might be a hex head so you can use a socket wrench or slot screw head or both.
 
The pardner is a great simple shotgun I can use for shooting maybe a half dozen times during a morning turkey hunt or something similar. I wouldn't want to shoot it for a full 25 round of trap over say 15 minutes of time. That would be rough on the shooter! Use it for trap and I would bet it will last longer than your shoulder does. :) I got one and use it for simple outing or when I want to go armed in the woods etc, but it kinda hurts on both ends when used.
 
to add weight remove the butt plate, two wood screws if I recall correctly, and fill the stock with lead shot. It can tame the recoil quite a bit. Any 12 guage single is gonna be rough for a round of trap, but the Parder is a good gun. It can take more abuse than you can I'll wager.
 
They're strong guns. I bought a 10 gauge for goose hunting and am really liking it. It's a 9 lb gun, so recoil is manageable, but yeah, stout. I fired 21 rounds out of it on a hunt last season and my shoulder was no more sore than doing that much shooting with my Mossberg and 3" loads. It does let ya know it went off, though.

The 12s are a lot lighter and probably actually kick harder than the 10 does. I had a 20 for the kid, but recoil was too much for her. She preferred shooting my 12 gauge gas auto. LOL That's the down side to a 12 gauge H&R. As far as holding up, it'll outlast many, many pumps and autos just due to simplicity. The thing is built very stout. It looks a bit crude in fit and finish, but it's stout.
 
What's the best target load to shoot in them without killing the shoulder? 7,5 shot?
 
Dakota, if you can find 7/8 oz loads, use those.

Otherwise, one oz will have to do.

As for durability, I doubt you will live long enough to need another.

HTH....
 
Does anybody know a site where I can find the date of manufacture for my pardner? It begins with NL2717XX
 
Thanks plumberroy! Mine was made in 1997. Are the older Pardner's better quality than the new ones? How is mine?

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Colton/Marty, how do I get the plate that covers the bolt off through? Thats where I'm stuck.

and Marty how's the 10ga shoot? I was shocked to see that on the H & R website. As it is I'm thinking of throwing a limbsaver on my 12ga and I don't really think of myself as sensitive to recoil. only thing is I don't use it all that much, it's real nice for dec grouse hunts where even if I flush half a dozen birds I'm lucky to get one clear shot on em. Would rather not carry my 870 around when sometimes I walk all day and don't even end up pulling the trigger.
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Hmm...I don't know what item you are talking about that covers the stock bolt. I just take a 14mm socket attached to an extension and remove the bolt with my socket wrench.

That 10GA is not too bad...To help tame the recoil, I purchased a mercury filled recoil reducer from C&H Research that is installed in the stock bolt hole. The reducer was custom cut to my specifications. I had them cut it just short of the stock bolt hole length. I fill in the gap with a couple rubber washers. It really works well...
 
I don't know about the older ones being better , but I like that style forearm best. the ten gauge weighs 9 1/2 lbs it is easier on the shoulder than most 12's shooting 3 1/2 inch shells
Roy
 
These classic old shotguns just make me think "americana". I think everybody should have one in their safe. I got one in 410 and I have had a ton of fun with it.
 
They're okay, I believe the old NEF pardners to be superior. I've seen plenty of H&R's break, I had my NEF (first shotgun) since I was 9 until I was 25 last year and put COUNTLESS rounds through it with no real mechanical problems. Early in it's lifespan it had some issues not ejecting spent hulls, but with some heavy cleaning and light lube, it went away completely.
 
Are the Pardners made in the Gardner, MA plant that was shutdown superior to the new ones made in Ilion, NY?
 
Dakota, yours looks just like Son's, before we trimmed the stock and added the KickEez.

Bought it around 2K.
 
They're okay, I believe the old NEF pardners to be superior. I've seen plenty of H&R's break, I had my NEF (first shotgun) since I was 9 until I was 25 last year and put COUNTLESS rounds through it with no real mechanical problems. Early in it's lifespan it had some issues not ejecting spent hulls, but with some heavy cleaning and light lube, it went away completely.
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Of course it's a bit bigger frame, but I see little difference in my 10 gauge and the 20 I had for my daughter 15 years ago.

Well, it was H&R before it was NEF. :D
 
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