Questions about the new S&W MP

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has anyone got a chance to shoot the new MP? i really like the way it looks, but its so new that i dont know anyone who has had a chance to handle one.

any input would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
 
It is reviewed in the December 2005 issue of Guns & Ammo. I haven't even seen one in the stores yet.
 
it's a Sigma, which is Glock with a worse trigger.

okay it's got some different styling and changable grips and different tactical mounts but it's a Sigma still. It's like that episode of the Simpsons were the geniuses at the Malibu Stacy company add a new hat accessory but don't really make any effort otherwise.
 
All the gunstores I checked have not received the M&P for sale. I heard (can't confirm) a local PD is switching over to the .40 M&P. Military and PD issue will probably be first on the list. Have read several articles/reviews and all are very positive. I'm waiting like all other S&W gun owners.
 
Otomik, what exactly about this gun is a Sigma, other than it is made by Smith?
 
For one thing, S&W will only sell versions of the gun with integral locks to us peons. My opinion is S&W can take all of their integral lock guns and shove them where the sun don't shine. :fire:
 
otomik said:
it's a Sigma, which is Glock with a worse trigger.

okay it's got some different styling and changable grips and different tactical mounts but it's a Sigma still. It's like that episode of the Simpsons were the geniuses at the Malibu Stacy company add a new hat accessory but don't really make any effort otherwise.
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No, It is not a Sigma.
 
it's a Sigma, which is Glock with a worse trigger.

okay it's got some different styling and changable grips and different tactical mounts but it's a Sigma still.
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Yeah, incorrect.

It might be polymer framed, and made by Smith, but it is not a Sigma. In fact, it seems to share no commonality of design with the Sigma whatsoever besides the fact that it is (partially) polymer-framed and made by Smith.

It might even suck, but it is most assuredly not a Sigma.

Mike
 
Coronach said:
In fact, it seems to share no commonality of design with the Sigma whatsoever besides the fact that it is (partially) polymer-framed and made by Smith.
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yeah it's different enough that they won't be sued by glock again, different enough. inspired "don't sue us" design includes a mag disconnect safety and disassembly that doesn't including pulling the trigger. i just feel kind of underwhelmed, another striker fired dao with polymer frame and browning-petter action and this one from a company with treachorous past and now they're giving us "safety features" that they don't have to include and won't be in the police models.

For one thing, S&W will only sell versions of the gun with integral locks to us peons. My opinion is S&W can take all of their integral lock guns and shove them where the sun don't shine.
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same with the magazine disconnect safety, it's not optional for us peons.

anyway i don't have a lot of information to get into detail, the grip angle is the same too. it does rub me the wrong way in terms of my politics and preferences
 
Ok-

Rather than argue the proving of the negative, let's hear why it is a sigma. So far we have:

It's made by Smith and Wesson.

It's polymer framed.

It's striker-fired.

By that logic my my F150 is a Mustang GT.

I have not handled the gun personally, but I have heard rave reviews from people I know personally who have. In particular, the trigger seems to be unbelievably good, and completely unrelated in either design or feel to that of a Glock or a Sigma. Additionally, the design appears to be very well thought out as far as ergos and durability go.

Whatever THAT makes it, I dunno. But it's not a Sigma.

Mike
 
It's not a Sigma, I stand corrected.

It's made by Smith and Wesson.

It's polymer framed.

It's striker-fired.
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double action only
half cock from slide?
browning-petter/modified browning SIG/Glock/XD locking

and it has all the features sarah brady would love, definately a late-nineties smith and wesson feature.

In particular, the trigger seems to be unbelievably good, and completely unrelated in either design or feel to that of a Glock or a Sigma.
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really? i'd like to know more, no half-cock from slide allowing a second strike perhaps? that would be nice. could you be more descriptive?
 
Yes, it has second strike capability, although I don't think that matters much. My immediate action drill for a failure to fire in an auto is a T-R-B, not a trigger pull.
There's a fair amount posted on this pistol on THR.
I have fired a few boxes through one. While I'm a dedicated 1911 shooter who despises the Sigma, I like the new M&P.
 
"Have read several articles/reviews and all are very positive. "

From the US gun press, does mean ANYTHING a positive article?

:)))
 
gvass said:
"Have read several articles/reviews and all are very positive. "

From the US gun press, does mean ANYTHING a positive article?

:)))
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"the AA2000 instantly makes the 1911 obsolete." Dick Metcalf
That's right, the colt all ameican 2000 made all of your 1911s obsolete, back in 1992. I'll be generous and buy all your kimbers for 50 bucks, it's just rust according to the all-knowing gun press.
 
"the AA2000 instantly makes the 1911 obsolete." Dick Metcalf
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Whoop-te-do. :rolleyes:
The 1911A1 did that way back in, what was it, 1934?

Obsolete is a relative term.

Vacuum tubes are considered obsolete. But look inside the amplifiers of the worlds greatest guitarists.
 
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