Quantcast

Quick questions on wood laminate stocks

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Z-Michigan, Sep 16, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Z-Michigan

    Z-Michigan Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2008
    Messages:
    4,047
    Location:
    Michigan
    I own one, I have some unfinished laminate that I'm finishing, and I'm wondering about a few things:

    1) Are these basically birch plywood, or is some other wood also used as part of the laminate?

    2) What do companies like Remington and Savage typically use as a finish on factory laminate stocks? It looks and feels like plastic to a greater extent than most other wood finishes that I'm familiar with.

    3) Do these ever come apart or delaminate? How common or rare is that?
     
  2. chicharrones

    chicharrones needs more ammo

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2010
    Messages:
    6,332
    Location:
    Galveston Bay is an Hour Away ©
    I'd like to hear some things about refinishing laminate as well.

    I've been fighting a "blemished" Remington Model 5 laminate stock that I've sanded down to bare wood two times. It just won't take stain evenly in some layers of the laminate. I usually work with one piece wood stocks and using stain has never been a problem.
     
  3. nicholst55

    nicholst55 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    Messages:
    698
    Location:
    37*55'N, 127*04'E
    Most laminated stocks are made from birch; a few also incorporate woods like maple. Apply a coat of Minwax Pre-Stain Wood Conditioner before you try to stain, and then it should turn out evenly.
     
  4. chicharrones

    chicharrones needs more ammo

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2010
    Messages:
    6,332
    Location:
    Galveston Bay is an Hour Away ©
    That's what I didn't do the first go round. So I had to sand it all the way back down. The second time, I used the Pre-Stain Wood Conditioner and it was better, but still not as even as a factory sold stock.

    It is workable though and is plenty good enough for field use. :eek:
     
  5. jdowney

    jdowney Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009
    Messages:
    112
    Factory finishes are usually some kind of lacquer or conversion varnish, they do look terribly like either a vacuum sealed plastic coating or wood grain contact paper :D

    I've never heard of a laminate stock de-laminating, with plywood its usually caused by severe water exposure that a gunstock would rarely see. Laminate stock blanks are made specifically for gunstocks, so they're typically not as cheaply made as the CDX plywood you get at Home Creepo, so I wouldn't expect a stock blank to de-laminate under any conditions really.

    For staining, its going to be really hard to get any kind of penetrating stain to work with a laminate. Pre-stain conditioners are basically just turning a penetrating stain into a film coloration, and its going to be really hard to get them to work with hand application as opposed to spraying. My approach would be to use an oil compatible dye and a regular finishing oil that works well with a hand application, especially if its a fast curing oil like Waterlox. This way you can build a lot of thin coats with the color in them and thus get a more even look.

    An alternative method would be to use a garnet or orange shellac for more of a milsurp look.
     
  6. Nevmavrick

    Nevmavrick Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    97
    Location:
    Sparks, Nevada
    laminates

    I've used just boiled linseed oil for a non-shiney finish, like a London-dull. With a little use, the initial shine goes away, and it's a natural smooth.
    If you care for a more "Weatherby"-type, go to Varathane. It chips if you drop it, but I'm sure you will minimize THAT.
    Also I don't stain mine. The closest I've done was when I did one of my "utility-grade" walnut stocks with a linseed-Coleman oil combination that really darkened the wood...to the extent that all the grain disappeared.
    Have fun'
    Gene
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice