Dan Forrester
Member
Hi everyone, my first post here 
, looks like a nice place.
I guess I’ll state right off the top that I’m a sucker for guns that don’t make noise. Since I don’t at this time want to go though all the BS required to possess a legal sound suppressor I’ve looked for other ways to make guns quiet. About the quietest I’ve ever done was with 158 grain cast lead round nose pushed with about 3.8 grains of Bullseye. Out of my dads 18 inch barreled lever action .357 it sounds like my 10-22 with CCI stingers or some other high velocity cartridges. That’s the lowest power fastest burning combo that was in my loading manual; and that as low as I went.
But then a couple days ago some one on another message board corrupted me by telling of these “Super Light†or “Cat’s Sneeze†loads loaded into rifles. Now of these super lights I continue hearing about the .45/70 super light loaded with 3 grains of Bullseye and a 405 grain lead flat point. From what I read it travels at about 500 fps at the muzzle and out of rifles with a good long barrel makes no noise (or less than pellet gun at least). Has any one ever re loaded these. I see I can get a 32 inch .45/70 barrel for my H&R Handy Rifle and am very tempted.
And another question which has been bugging me for a long time which would be good to answer now. What’s the deal with a fast powder like Bulseye, Unique, 700-X designed for pistols being used in a rifle. I was always under the impression that even a little pistol powder in a rifle would blow it up. But have been reading the past couple days about people using pistol powders (mainly Bulseye) in .45/70, .30/30, .30-06, .223 and many others. Now I’ll admit that they don’t use much 1 or 2 grains and always with a lead bullet but how much pistol powder will blow up a rifle? If you use a soft lead bullet is their any limit to how much pistol powder you can use? And how do you explain a rifle, chambered for a pistol cartridge; this would defy the rules of reloading? How can it be possible to push a .357 mag FMJ out of an 18 inch barrel with 8.7 grains of Bulseye and not have it explode. Don’t get me wrong I know that rifle cartridges loaded with pistol powders and jacketed bullets do explode, but it seems there are exceptions the rules. What are those exceptions? I’d like to know before I proceeded.
Thanks, Dan
, looks like a nice place.I guess I’ll state right off the top that I’m a sucker for guns that don’t make noise. Since I don’t at this time want to go though all the BS required to possess a legal sound suppressor I’ve looked for other ways to make guns quiet. About the quietest I’ve ever done was with 158 grain cast lead round nose pushed with about 3.8 grains of Bullseye. Out of my dads 18 inch barreled lever action .357 it sounds like my 10-22 with CCI stingers or some other high velocity cartridges. That’s the lowest power fastest burning combo that was in my loading manual; and that as low as I went.
But then a couple days ago some one on another message board corrupted me by telling of these “Super Light†or “Cat’s Sneeze†loads loaded into rifles. Now of these super lights I continue hearing about the .45/70 super light loaded with 3 grains of Bullseye and a 405 grain lead flat point. From what I read it travels at about 500 fps at the muzzle and out of rifles with a good long barrel makes no noise (or less than pellet gun at least). Has any one ever re loaded these. I see I can get a 32 inch .45/70 barrel for my H&R Handy Rifle and am very tempted.
And another question which has been bugging me for a long time which would be good to answer now. What’s the deal with a fast powder like Bulseye, Unique, 700-X designed for pistols being used in a rifle. I was always under the impression that even a little pistol powder in a rifle would blow it up. But have been reading the past couple days about people using pistol powders (mainly Bulseye) in .45/70, .30/30, .30-06, .223 and many others. Now I’ll admit that they don’t use much 1 or 2 grains and always with a lead bullet but how much pistol powder will blow up a rifle? If you use a soft lead bullet is their any limit to how much pistol powder you can use? And how do you explain a rifle, chambered for a pistol cartridge; this would defy the rules of reloading? How can it be possible to push a .357 mag FMJ out of an 18 inch barrel with 8.7 grains of Bulseye and not have it explode. Don’t get me wrong I know that rifle cartridges loaded with pistol powders and jacketed bullets do explode, but it seems there are exceptions the rules. What are those exceptions? I’d like to know before I proceeded.
Thanks, Dan
